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admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 05:30:26 JST admin de gnusocial.net
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- T3rr0rz0n3 ????
@t3rr0rz0n3 Sí, es este: https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/src/master
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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 05:08:54 JST simsa04

Anyway, I now have to stop posting and start taking apart my sister's laptop. Hardware tinkering is just lovely :-)

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 05:02:25 JST simsa04
- admin de gnusocial.net
Yes, that is always the upside.

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admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:50:22 JST admin de gnusocial.net
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- avileva
@avileva Tu cuenta ya no está aislada. ¡Que disfrutes!

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admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:40:26 JST admin de gnusocial.net
- simsa04
@simsa04 I don't think you can. Anyway, I'm learning a bit more about databases in the process...

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admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:39:15 JST admin de gnusocial.net
- simsa04
@simsa04 Exactly.

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:34:27 JST simsa04
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- simsa04
@administrator
... and how would one even find a rule of thumbs for that? Perhaps somethign like: the "igh interaction subscriptions" of a gs.net account are the last to be federated ...
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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:30:30 JST simsa04
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The federation interaction could easily exceed exponentiality. The problem for gs.net is less the number of user accounts but the number of high interaction subscriptions allowed for every account.
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admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:22:08 JST admin de gnusocial.net
- simsa04
@simsa04 Actually... we also are getting more accounts opened (nothing comparable to Mastodon, of course), and the server is holding them fine. We decided 500 accounts was the maximum we would allow here (and we are quite far yet).

But I'm afraid that we are starting to suffer what Aral pointed recently, and you've commented: a dramatic increase in federation interaction, which is hurting the database badly.

These days I'm trying different techniques so Mariadb can keep with the "new rythm".

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:09:55 JST simsa04
- admin de gnusocial.net
I'm happy that we sit on this beautiful little island, sipping drinks at the sunny beach, enjoying the occasional #gnusocialmagic this lovely instance happens to put up in front of us for our pleasant amusement. Ah! Paradise, endless vacation, Gnusocial for ever :-)

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admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:06:22 JST admin de gnusocial.net
- simsa04
@simsa04 I guess, as any other mastodon server right now.

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:02:27 JST simsa04

The #fediverse should perhaps think about bifurcation and split: the Mastodon-network that already creates a silo of its own, and the other instances. Right now the mass-scaling of the mastodon-network ousts smaller instances not running mastodon software.

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 04:00:49 JST simsa04
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what do they mean by this? queuing?

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 03:57:09 JST simsa04
- simsa04
Why the Mastodon-network slowly strangles the #fediverse

https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/

« If ActivityPub (the protocol) and Mastodon (a server that adheres to that protocol) were designed to incentivise decentralisation, having more instances in the network would not be a problem. In fact, it would be the sign of a healthy, decentralised network.

However, ActivityPub and Mastodon are designed the same way Big Tech/Big Web is: to encourage services that host as many “users” as they can.

This design is both complex (which makes it difficult and expensive to self-host) and works beautifully for Big Tech (where things are centralised and scale vertically and where the goal is to get/own/control/exploit as many users as possible).

In Big Tech, the initial cost of obtaining such scale is subsidised by vast amounts of venture capital [...]

However, unlike Big Tech, the stated goal of the fediverse is to decentralise things, not centralise them. Yet how likely is it we can achieve the opposite of Big Tech’s goals while adopting its same fundamental design?

When you adopt the design of a thing, you also inherit the success criteria that led to the evolution of that design. If that success criteria does not align with your own goals, you have a problem on your hands.»

#decentralisation #fediverse #federation !gnusocial !fnetworks
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  Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)
  
  Every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. What does this say about the design of Mastodon and ActivityPub and the future of the fediverse?
admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 03:57:18 JST admin de gnusocial.net
- simsa04
@simsa04 Anyway, right now at tilde.zone: https://gnusocial.net/url/12395723
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  tilde.zone
  
  mastodon instance of the tildeverse, a collection of small public access *nix systems for collaboration, creativity, and socializing. a proud part of the small internet.
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admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 03:53:32 JST admin de gnusocial.net
- simsa04
@simsa04 Ok, in es0mhi profile here, I can see the last notice is from yesterday.
Just to see if the problem is with you account or the server (as you were the only person following him on this server), I've just followed him. We'll see.

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 03:46:24 JST simsa04
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- es0mhi
It's this one here https://gnusocial.net/notice/13090788

@es0mhi replied to it with https://tilde.zone/@es0mhi/109342849024494298 which doesn't show up as its reply here on gs.net, only on my backup account on m.s.

I sent an email to mastodon@tilde.zone asking if there were some decisions on their side with regard to (partial) defederation or some other glitches, but didn't hear back from them yet.
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  es0mhi (@es0mhi@tilde.zone)
  
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  @simsa04@gnusocial.net This statement should trigger a much broader discussion than I have time for right now. Just a few brief remarks: I, too, find approaching people via interests rather clumsy. Outside the net, I am first interested in personality (I use this fuzzy term here on purpose) and only later try to find out via which interests someone has become that personality. Moreover, here in the fediverse it apparently leads to the fact that many create different accounts for their different interests. Which I refuse to do (until now). Since we can't "listen to the tone of a person's voice" here, don't necessarily learn about her mannors, the personality could be sensed in a different way. It would be helpful if people would express themselves more creatively. Simply boosting things, or spreading a link, a message, etc., is not enough. At some point, #GNUsocial was called 'statusnet' - an origin of which we hopefully emancipate ourselves - or not. Style would be of importance, style of writing, style of discussing. In a sharing culture, there is no room for style any more. I find 'personal info' sometimes helpful after all. You say that we have learned not to share it on the net. Well, I have also learned many things offline about what I shouldn't do - and do them anyway.
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  mensaje de simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net), el Monday, 14-Nov-2022 14:44:34 CET - gnusocial.net
  
  Over in the Mastodon-network (a silo of its own), people keep doing the self-introduction thing. I find this idea rather befuddling, esp. when it comes to sharing personal info which we learnt we shouldn't do on the web. I think you can learn more about a person when you listen to her tone of voice, her manners, and only to some extent via her interests. With regard to the latter, an annotated list of my tags may suffice. #batteries (although in the context of infrastructure, energy, climate, less as hardware or essential building blocks but as objects on which people put their misguided hopes on) #counterculture (I went along with it for many years, now I primarily think about its negative impacts; historical interest) #drought (is more than "heat" a concern to me) #ecocolonialism (from the perspective of how Greens and Progressives offset environmental costs on poor nations when trying to jump-start their green economies) #energy (broad category, includes "renewables", "nuclear", often "infrasturcture") #federation (how its technical aspects create the conversations-based foundation of the Fediverse) #fediverse (history as well as present and future developments of something that is more than the Mastodon-network) #goodread (a corollary to "sources") #heat (rarely) #identica (history) 1/2 [in case you can't see the sequel, click on "In conversation" below]
simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 03:37:51 JST simsa04
- admin de gnusocial.net
Yes. Say both of us.

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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 03:33:16 JST simsa04
- Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan, "Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)" https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/

A wonderful blogpost explaining why mass and scale are a danger to the #fediverse. Thanks @aral for unearthing this problem for the #Fediverse (not just the silo-esk Mastodon-network).

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« [O]n the fediverse, I find myself in a somewhat unique situation where:

1. I have my own personal Mastodon instance, just for me.4
2. I’m followed by quite a number of people. Over 22,000, to be exact.
3. I follow a lot of people and I genuinely enjoy having conversations with them. [...]

Unfortunately, the combination of these three factors creates a perfect storm which means that now, every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. [...]

So, what’s the solution?

Well, there’s only one thing you can do when you find yourself in such a pickle: scale up your Mastodon instance. The problem with that? It starts getting expensive. »

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Yes, scale the instance and have it get more expensive is one problem.

But the other is that by doing so you either oust smaller instances or force them to scale up as well to stay visible and "see" enough accounts.

#fediverse #federation !gnusocial !fnetworks
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  Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)
  
  Every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. What does this say about the design of Mastodon and ActivityPub and the future of the fediverse?
admin de gnusocial.net (administrator@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 03:14:31 JST admin de gnusocial.net
- simsa04
@simsa04 It seems you really like that micro story :)

Now, seriously: did you repeated the notice once, and it appeared as if you did twice?

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