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  1. 翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-2022 18:30:00 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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    @gnusocialjp By the way, systemd is: LGPLv2.1-or-later - you need to make sure to mention the actual license, as "GPL" is meaningless.
    @ryo
    >I heard that there’s a committee for defining what is considered FOSS and what is not
    There's a committee for deciding for what's "open source": https://opensource.org/osd (yes, clownflare and lots of nonfree JavaScript), but they've approved a number of proprietary software licenses.

    >To put things simply, OSS (open source) is actually a movement that came in as a corporate response to the business model of WordPress (or something else, whatever), they saw you can make software open source and still make lots of money off of it
    "open source" as and movement came from the want to destroy free software and replace it with a special type of proprietary software: http://www.catb.org/~esr/open-source.html
    Wordpress was initially released in 2003.

    >Microshaft came with Visual Studio Code, which even admits it’s OSS and not FOSS.
    The "VSCode" binary doesn't even comply with the "open source definition", but the source does.

    >Goolag Android (so not Android AOSP), Chromium, and so on
    "AOSP" relies on and ships a bunch of proprietary software (look in the webview license list) and only Replicant fixes such.
    The licensing of chromium is unclear, so nobody knows if it even qualifies as "open source".

    The debian "openSSL" bug was caused by a developer deciding to correct a compile time error and ending up breaking the PRNG.

    >all these massive OSS projects by big corporations all include an EULA you have to agree to in order to use the software?
    If you need to agree to an EULA, such software doesn't even qualify as "open source".

    >FOSS on the other hand stands for free and open source software
    Except in a bunch of cases, that can mean; "gratis, source available software".

    systemd is free software, but just because it's free software doesn't mean it's good - so I don't use systemd.

    >As for FLOSS, it’s basically the same as FOSS
    "FLOSS" does a slightly better job at being neutral between free software and "open source".

    >because in English if you say “free software”, it might be confused as “pirated software” (which is really just sharing software Robin Hood style)
    Such confusion can be rectified by stating: "When I say free software, I'm talking about freedom and not something as shallow as price" and the listener won't make the same mistake.

    I don't understand how sharing proprietary software has anything to do with theft, murder etc with the help of a boat and sharing proprietary malware is not something Robin Hood would do.

    >And proprietary software is all the software that has an EULA, is or isn’t open source, has a copyright (which is a scam)
    All software is copyrighted automatically by the current copyright laws, so if you want it to be free software, you *must* license it.

    >I run Artix Linux on my ThinkPads
    That's Artix GNU/Linux or Artix/Linux, as the kernel, Linux doesn't run on its own, as saying "Artix Linux" implies that you run a version of Linux.

    >I’ll get another ThinkPad to run OpenBSD on
    Don't - OpenBSD installs proprietary software without asking the user if it detects that the hardware could use such.

    >actually own them, because the GPL license (and also the BSD license for OpenBSD and GhostBSD) says so.
    There are 3 versions of the GPL; GPLv1, GPLv1 and GPLv3. The kernel, Linux is under the GPLv2-only and most GNU software is now licensed under GPLv3-or-later.

    >SoystemD has also been the reason for Linux users to switch to BSD
    There is not one BSD - there are many. I'm not sure of any "Linux users", but I'm aware of GNU/Linux and BusyBox/Linux users.

    Only 1 or two of the free distros even use systemd anyway, you should just use one of those instead of selecting one of the proprietary BSD's: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
    In conversation Monday, 26-Sep-2022 18:30:00 JST from freesoftwareextremist.com permalink
  2. GNU social JP (gnusocialjp@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 14:05:19 JST GNU social JP GNU social JP
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    @ryo This is definition of Free Software (What is Free Software? https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html).

    There are 4 essential (0=run, 1=study, 2=redistribute, 3=modify).

    This is definition of OSS (The Open Source Definition https://opensource.org/osd).

    OSS has no 0=run freedom.

    Free software is social movement for user free. OSS is software development method for performance/quality (by corporation).

    I think FOSS is software license type (≒OSS). I think difference of FOSS and OSS term is not important. But difference of Free software and OSS is very important.

    I think your request (privacy protection) exceeds over free software.

    UNIX phylosophy is not related for free software (UNIX is not free).

    systemd (GPL) and firefox (MPL) are free software license (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html).

    You can modify systemd/firefox by your self. You are not restricted by using systemd/firefox. And your free is protected.

    If you want to priority privacy exceeding free software, you can select and modify existing free software.

    I think your opinion (systemd/firefox is not free) is wrong. I am FSF associate member. So I cannot miss your wrong opinion.
    In conversation Monday, 19-Sep-2022 14:05:19 JST from gnusocial.jp permalink
  3. Masanori Ogino ???? (omasanori@mstdn.maud.io@mstdn.maud.io)'s status on Sunday, 23-Sep-2018 21:12:44 JST Masanori Ogino ???? Masanori Ogino ????

    The Open Source Definition | Open Source Initiative https://opensource.org/osd

    In conversation Sunday, 23-Sep-2018 21:12:44 JST from mstdn.maud.io permalink
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