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Protected Moomin (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2019 00:19:03 JST

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@lain srsly tho what did you think about the ocap part?

I want to make a simple server and want the ocap stuff in there from the start.

Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2019 06:19:34 JST

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@moonman will reply to this properly tomorrow

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Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Thursday, 08-Aug-2019 01:02:44 JST

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@moonman I don't think 'simple' and 'ocap' mix that well. In general I like the concept, but especially cwebber's essay on it seems too academic to me and filled with things that are simple theoretically but not trivial at all in practice (like all the 'proxy' stuff, for example). Also, I don't need a no nation no borders approach to motivate a social network protocol.

Kaninii's writeup at https://blog.dereferenced.org/what-is-ocap-and-why-should-i-care gets more to the point, I think, but already that example leaves me with tons of questions.

AP conf next month will essentially be 'Gospel of OCAP' conf, so I'm holding my judgement until then. At the moment, it seems like a lot of complexity for some interesting features that you can already do by signing your requests (which is expensive).

Being able to share authorizations with someone else is treated like a feature (you can give your friend your car key!) but it's a source of problems at the same time (someone stole your car key!).

TL;DR I'm not buying into it yet, but I'll look into it deeper.

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Protected Moomin (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 08-Aug-2019 03:48:20 JST

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@lain I was hoping it would be less confusing than a capability-based operating system but I guess it's about the same. nvm then lol.

nepfag (nepfag@pl.smuglo.li)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2019 08:06:57 JST

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@sjw @lain @moonman Any kind of whitelist goes against the spirit and the nature of the fediverse. Burn this man at the stake and call his waifu a slut.

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Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2019 08:11:30 JST

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@sjw @moonman I don't see the point, really.

nepfag (nepfag@pl.smuglo.li)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2019 08:13:18 JST

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@sjw @lain @moonman Of course he is.

Protected Moomin (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2019 08:14:00 JST

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@sjw @lain well, ocap does a lot more stuff than just whitelist entire servers. I'm leaning toward the opinion that ocap is a trojan horse for whitelists anyway though. anyway, I think the method listed would potentially cause unpredictable federation whitelist changes from other servers and piss off everybody.

Protected Moomin (moonman@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2019 08:15:00 JST

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