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@augustus literally everyone outside of the empire just called them greeks because thats what they were in the end.
the early seljuk empire was pound-for-pound way more effective and dynamic than the greeks. they just never really sorted out their problematic successions.
its important to remember that turk/ottoman governance is basically just reskinned persian administrative tradition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persianate_society
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@augustus get out byzaboo
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@augustus from 1000 AD on they had tons of opportunities to turn it around but fumbled because of their shitty culture that punishes people who actually give a shit (and just really bad luck). even manzikert wasnt that big of a deal in the long run.
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@augustus byzantine history is confusing to read about because of the revolving door of prestige titles and institutions that gradually lose their cool factor over the centuries and have to be replaced with fresh ones that basically do the same thing but without the historical baggage. draws paralells with chinese history.
a thousand years of historical baggage is not a good thing.
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