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@zardoz lol
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@pony no one will seriously ever suggest emulating indigenous people of the past, including current indigenous peoples. It's just signaling.
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@JoYo @pony it's not limited to indigenous people, you basically go back before processed foods and you can go all around the earth and find vastly different diets, that also didn't kill people.
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@kaikatsu @JoYo @pony It's just kind of surprising for example that you can find long-lived people in the far north that live on mostly fat.
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@JoYo @pony my "lol" was for a couple different reasons, but one that comes to mind is a bunch of America's indigenous people were still nomadic hunter-gatherers when we arrived here. Not sustainable at all unless you have really sparse population density.
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@moonman @JoYo @pony prehistoric people are the reason why we can't pet wooly mammoths anymore and why there are no old growth forests in Europe.
the myth of the noble environmentally friendly savage is just patronizing. indigenous Americans were not hippies, there just weren't enough of them to make that big of an impact compared to industrialization. the tribes that got horses stopped the "use every part of the hunt" practice pretty quick the moment they got their hands on firearms and helped hunt their food source to extinction.
on a larger scale its inherently not possible to be "environmentally neutral" without a modern understanding of science and ecology.
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@moonman @JoYo @pony
meant to say england, not Europe proper. bronze age people rekt almost all the forests in england for farmland. pretty much every grove is managed woodland there.
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@pony @JoYo @moonman
there's no evidence of any kind of widespread conservationist ideology before the modern era. cultures just lucked into certain benificial practices out superstition or pragmaticism the same way symbiotic life tends to start off as parasitic.
reducing infant mortality into the single digits was the biggest disaster for the planet, not fossil fuels.
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@orekix @JoYo @moonman @pony
imagine the environmental impact of three hundred million hunter-gatherers.
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