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1. spaceman (spaceman@wurm.host)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jul-2020 08:33:18 JST spaceman

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   @shmibs Point 3 is a bit contentious. What spawned this recent wave of protesting, from the BLA/BLM/BGF/J propaganda machine to the Georgia NFAC is funding. It's funding allocated because this is an election year. I believe it's through the DNC, but I couldn't produce proof of that, it's just the logical player given the infrastructure of bookstores and historical relationships.This is all a red herring though. You're suddenly a Calvanist when it comes to causality for the thug, but the police must be held accountable; do only white people have agency in your world view or is that just an unhappy coincidence?
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jul-2020 08:33:18 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     @spaceman these same protests have been ongoing for years. here's a fun story about 2017 protests (mentions 2014 protests also) for example: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/30/its-still-blast-beating-people-st-louis-police-indicted-assault-undercover-officer-posing-protester/it's bigger this time because multiple particularly eggregious killings happened to coincide with millions of people being laid off and trawling sns all daythe dnc was reluctant to show support for the protests at first (which makes sense, given that joe biden, who they'd just finished rigging the primary for, has a very bad history in "black relations", including the anita hill situation, advocating for "no mercy" policing, and authoring (to gain favour with extremely racist legislators / klan members like strom thurmond, james eastland, robert byrd) the crime bill stuff that spiked our prison population from like .5 million in the 80s to nearly 2.5 now, adding the massive disparity in treatment of crack and powder because "poor black people" dealt the former and "rich white people" the latter)once it was obvious the protesting wouldn't die out, though, dnc was forced to support it (in the most half-assed, narrative shifting way possible) though for the same reason that all those companies had to run stupid twitter campaigns (i.e. not being "cancelled")as for agency:1. when police break the law, they are almost never punished, whereas many innocent non-police are punished when innocent2. personal responsibility is important, but so is "setting people up for success". a poor neighbourhood with roaming bullies and fathers all locked in jail produces kids who hate being "on the bottom" and have no role models around but "gang-bangers" produces inevitably a higher percentage of new gang-devotees, being "tough" and chasing money because "that's how a man acts, don't take no shit", or because "there's no other way for me to get money", or because public education is more garbage than normal in poor neighbourhoods because school funding is calculated according to how rich the neighbourhood isit's like parenting. once the child becomes an adult it's held responsible for its actions, but there's also onus on the parent to raise that child properly