Can someone explain to me why HIV status is supposed to be top secret private information that no one else has the right to, but @covid19 status is something that everyone and their cousin deserves to know about?
@jeffcliff@Moon@covid19@sfbos prospect of editing it out is a promising one, can hopedon't see why an employer knowing or not would be particularly necessary for containment? if it's nontransmissable through air, skin contact, smooching etcunless you work in a field where it's common to rub your open wounds together? could *maybe* make a point about catastrophic injury + unconsciousness + open-wound-having-person-tries-to-staunch-bleeding, but that doesn't seem a particularly realistic situation for most occupations
@shmibs@Moon@covid19@sfbos > 1. incurable. it's something you have to deal with foreverCRISPr seems like it should be a way out of this, long term. Editing it right out of your genome> but otherwise better for everyone if kept a secretThat depends how badly we want to contain HIV, as a species. Which given how many people it kills, and the prospect of the global healthcare system collapsing due to XDR-TB / ABR bacteria...is almost certain.
@Moon@sfbos@covid19 hiv status is:1. incurable. it's something you have to deal with forever2. irrationally stigmatised. people get fired / avoided / etc despite there being no risk of transmission involvedit's information important to share in situations like blood transfusions or intimate relationships, but otherwise better for everyone if kept a secret
@jeffcliff@Moon@covid19@sfbos risk assessment is a thing: drastic measures hurting many to prevent tiny risks hurting few are pretty dumblogistical problems exist: massive expenditures on tiny risks eat up resources that could otherwise be put towards greater risksprecedents are dangerous: there may well be less resistance to a second instance of rounding up all X people once a first has been accepted and carried out, even if the reasoning behind doing so is less "well-founded"
@shmibs@Moon@covid19@sfbos it is possible to cordon off infected people - say to throw the lot of them in australia or something. It would be cruel, but if we're serious about stopping the virus it's the sort of thing we could do.
@sfbos@covid19 and the attacking/evicting nurses and "asia-looking" people is anyways nothing to do with infected status, and that's been the brunt of it
@shmibs also, even though nurses and "asia-looking people" (really?) may or may not be @covid19 positive, it's the assumption that counts. Just like with Hatians, homosexuals, and heroin users.
@sfbos assumptions are not related to the discussion you startedand "asia-looking" because the sort who act that way tend not to distinguish between china, taiwan, japan, korea (and only vietnam because war and thailand because 'that's where i go to buy sex')