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1. GABLIN SLAYER :backfromgab: ? :thot_patrol: (zemichi@pl.smuglo.li)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 14:57:04 JST GABLIN SLAYER :backfromgab: ? :thot_patrol:

   • Blobyoumu
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
   @shmibs @blobyoumu I don't think pro-nationalistic means you can't be empathic. Me being pro American doesn't mean I'm suddenly anti Mexican or anti Chinese or that it means I want other countries to be like America.But people confuse anti-nationalism with being pro-empathy. I am a single person but if I spent all my resources to help others without helping myself it would be harmful to myself. People would be thankful to me but I would lose in the end.The hospital can't spend all its money to save one baby when there's thousands others to save. You can't donate all your money to charity when you have a family and yourself to feed. America as a single country can't be the sole provider of all the world's problem despite what other countries think about its power.Like one thing I get onto people's case about is illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is slave labor, it's not an altruistic thing. People love to meme about the selfish American saying "dey took ur jerbs!" but yeah, they did take the jobs so they pay poor people poor wages and packaged it as kindness. Nobody is going to improve the conditions in Mexico or take down the cartels slinging Chinese poison but hey we paid a Mexican minimum wage that not even an American can live on so it's all good! Racism solved!If we had infinite money this wouldn't be an issue but we don't. We're so inefficient with our energy that we're doing things that help us feel good but don't really help anyone. Being nationalistic a bit of the time could help. :backfromgab:
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 14:57:03 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Blobyoumu
     @zemichi @blobyoumu (sorry, pleroma sploded a bit)be helpful to whom, though? the people i love are spread in countries around the world. why should i care about some artificial countries for grouping people?. and nation is a bit different, anyways, implies a shared identity; not the same as countrythe "can't spend all that to save one baby" bit is really a flawed argument when the brunt of spending all goes to competing with other nations and caring is left only scraps. if those resources were directed towards people in the first place, those scarcity problems could be avoidedthe cartels in mexico were/are created by (in this case US) nationalism, "our personal profit is worth more than your right to live, because my people are more important than your people"
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 15:35:06 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Blobyoumu
     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     @zemichi @blobyoumu and of course it's hard to make a difference on a single-person scale. nationalism becomes higher-level policy is the problem, though, hurting others to temporarily get ahead rather than working togetherhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 15:53:55 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Blobyoumu
     @zemichi @blobyoumu who does what china wants, and china, being extremely nationalistic policy-wise, tries to get what it wants at the expense of others, meaning who is not a great target for cooperating with
   • GABLIN SLAYER :backfromgab: ? :thot_patrol: (zemichi@pl.smuglo.li)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 15:53:56 JST GABLIN SLAYER :backfromgab: ? :thot_patrol:

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     • Blobyoumu
     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     @shmibs @blobyoumu >the "can't spend all that to save one baby" bit is really a flawed argument when the brunt of spending all goes to competing with other nations and caring is left only scraps. if those resources were directed towards people in the first place, those scarcity problems could be avoidedThis is a tweet made by the WHO an organization we've apparently pledged to give 700 million dollars tohttps://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?s=20An organization that is apparently supposed to serve the world (not the US) published lies about a pandemic, flat out. We're apparently going to give 700 million dollars to them.If that money were used to nationalistic reasons it could be used for energy, infrastructure, investment, US poverty, US healthcare to prevent pandemics.Or that 700 million dollars could have gone to some poor country that can't even make 700 million dollars.Or we could split the baby and instead of giving it to people that we don't trust or don't trust us we could give it to an ally. Could Japan, South Korea, or a European county use 700 million dollars? Probably.I see people complain about defunding the WHO that it's in the way of a borderless empathic view of the world and I'm here to say that it's a bias and a deadly bias because you cant convince people on what the problem is. I'm happy and proud for my country, I would do a lot for this country, I also have complaints about this country and I wouldn't put anyone down because they're not from this country. These are all true things and I don't think it's hard to be critical of your own country. But it's outrageous to think that wanting to to be nationalistic for your own country means there's no space for supporting anyone else. :backfromgab:world-us-canada-52294623.png
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 17:31:34 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Korsier :au2: :pride: :christ:
     @Korsier @zemichi @blobyoumu mexico and central america are garbage fires largely because of nationalist US policies
   • Korsier :au2: :pride: :christ: (korsier@toot.canberrasocial.net)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 17:31:39 JST Korsier :au2: :pride: :christ:

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     • Blobyoumu
     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

     @zemichi @blobyoumu @shmibs It's okay to be a nationalist. That doesn't make you a racist, especially if you come from a multi racial country like America, Australia, etc. IMHO the best way to help people from poorer countries is to develop their economies, not take their hardest workers away. I mean how much better world the world be if countries like Mexico or Venezuela had great economies and could provide their own people with opportunities?

   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 18:02:47 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • AMERIKA
     • Korsier :au2: :pride: :christ:
     @amerika @Korsier @blobyoumu @zemichi dunno exactly what you mean by third world, but mexico on southwards are not dumpster-fires-all-on-their-own because they're never actually left alone. instead nationalist policies lead (primarily) the US to crush what are seen as "potential rivals" and prop up / fund certain gangs / cartels etc over others in order to collect protection-fee profitsthe zero-sum approach is both less efficient and comes back to bite you in the long run (taking forms like violent terrorist groups or unstoppable floods of refugees)
   • AMERIKA (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2020 18:02:48 JST AMERIKA

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     • Korsier :au2: :pride: :christ:
     @shmibs @Korsier @blobyoumu @zemichi the third world is a dumpster fire all on its own