@wowaname@deadheat@nepfag have seen (and personally experienced) enough to doubt that abuse is the same for children and adults, and the things we know about the two would seem to support that- childrens' brains go through rapid growth and neuron pruning. this continues until around 25, but the rate is much faster the younger the child. children are in the process of forming the basic brain layouts they'll have for the rest of their lives, and trauma during that time can have system-wide effects that won't happen the same way in adults and that can't be undone short of that child magically becoming a completely different person. yay for BPD, etc- helplessness / inability to change or leave or do anything at all about one's situation, though not unique to childhood, is pretty much a certainty rather than being an outlier, meaning it's usually much easier for an abuser to successfully harm a child than an adultnot to say "the west" isn't foot-shooting when it comes to discussing these topics, but
@deadheat@nepfag anyway, as i told nepfag, i make no distinction between "abuse" and "child abuse", they are equally devestating. see https://wowana.me/blog/the-grey-area-of-paedophilia.xht for exactly what i wrote up on the topichell, i'd even talk with abusers and murderers here to get clued into their psychological process
@deadheat@nepfag >hurting and traumatising childrenand thats what i mean by people who instantly dismiss any conversation about paedophiliaEVEN if you maintain the belief that ALL paedophiles are abusers, you must see the value of them coming here and opening themselves up to talk. the best weapon in any fight is knowledge, and here you are, being served an insider look on a silver platter.silencing them so readily means that they win. don't be such a fucking tool that you can't realise what opportunity is presented to you by being able to talk to them
@wowaname The problem is that you are talking about people who feel sexual gratification in hurting and traumatizing children, not people who get ostracized for political opinions. Where do you go from here? Can you ask people to be reasonable about being a monster? They have to suppress their own desire or society will have to make sure it will be suppressed for them, and that's it.
im grateful toward anyone who has not stupidly tried to lunge at my throat for wanting to debate them here. i know my account has mostly been replying to / about paedophiles recently, but until now i really havent had opportunity to talk with many of them and see their perspectives. it's an uncomfortable topic that imo needs to be talked about, it's one thing that definitely needs to be protected as free speech, and it's nice to have a place online where i'm not instantly accused of being a child molester simply because i decide not to "kill all paedophiles" or "think of the children" like some kind of emotionally-impressionable drone
i say this because they are one of the most-ostracised groups in the modern era, they quite simply cannot judge others without being completely hypocriticali'm a lot of things and i don't judge people like that, because i know my place. and the fact that others bite the hand that feeds (mine) when i give them the benefit of the doubt, is suicidal at best. they dont have many allies to begin with and it seems like they choose to burn bridges with anyone willing to hear them out but wont stoop to their level