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しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 20:02:53 JST
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Remember Pearl Harbor -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 20:07:54 JST
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@igel 裕仁 was not what Hitler was in Germany.He didn't want to start the war and also didn't have enough power to prevent it.(It is true he didn't his best to prevent the war, though) -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 20:07:55 JST
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@shovel 裕仁 did nothing wrong -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 20:28:59 JST
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@igel The emperor was no more than some kind of idol and was rarely involved in a political decision like the president of Germany today. It is all the Japanese that started the war. -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 20:29:00 JST
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@shovel >the japanese didnt want to start a war :akkothink: :akkothink: :akkothink: :akkothink: -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 20:47:41 JST
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@igel Yes, but the Japanese emperor was not equivalent to West emperor. (It's because 天皇 can't have nice name such as Wilhelm or Friedrich) There is no word to express 天皇 in the West. Almost through whole history of Japan, the 天皇 has been an emperor but hasn't had the actual political power. (Some shoguns or bureaucrats had it.) Those who protected 天皇 and were admitted by 天皇 became kings in Japan. Some people say it is similar to the relationship between Caliph and Sultan in the Islamic world. Shogun was defeated by those who helped 天皇 and those who helped 天皇 made the parliament. Then 天皇 was bound by the parliament. -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 20:47:43 JST
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@shovel I thought the emperor got back into power before the war? Shogun was defeated -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:01:20 JST
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@igel By the way, how do you call two German emperors whose names are Friedrich? I've wondered if it's confusing. -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:01:22 JST
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@shovel danke -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:05:15 JST
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@igel But I think there are two Friedrich II, aren't there? -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:05:16 JST
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@shovel we number them like this "Friedrich der Dritte" etc. 英語=Friedrich the ThirdLike Lupin the Third! ? しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: likes this. -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:09:17 JST
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@shovel these? Those are 2 different eras of germany. I guess you would say which empire you mean. Holy Roman, or Prussia/Preussen. German Empire wasnt really a thing until the Second Reich. So it was all just kingdoms who speak german. しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: likes this. -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:15:31 JST
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@igel ありがとう!>German Empire wasnt really a thing until the Second Reich. それでもドイツの第一帝国と第二帝国にはロマンがあってかっこいいと思います(ヒトラーも同じこと考えたのかな) -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:23:54 JST
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@igel 「ロマンがある」は日本の言葉で、かっこいいとか憧れる(aspiration?)、みたいな意味ですフランス語のroman(小説)が由来で、日本で意味が変わっていきましたRoman Empireは日本では「ローマ帝国」です ex.ローマ式敬礼 Roman salute -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:23:55 JST
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@shovel えっと、ドイツのロマン帝国は多民族かった。本気ドイツ帝国じゃない しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: likes this. -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:46:20 JST
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@igel ローマのほうの意味は知らなかったです!jisho.orgは思った以上に便利ですねhttps://jisho.org/search/%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3 -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:46:22 JST
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@shovel そうですか?そっか。まあ、意味くなかった思います。ローマの意味は対キリスト教かったです。キリスト教はローマに統治されていたので。歴史は混乱してい思います。。 -
しゃべる :siberiapop: :pleroma: :sabakan: (shovel@su.siberia.work)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:56:11 JST
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@igel めちゃくちゃだw(it's a mess):blobamused: -
igeljaeger ?:gun: (igel@jaeger.website)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Aug-2020 21:56:12 JST
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@shovel to be honest im kind of lost right now hahahaこの会話は全然分かりません :akkolul:
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