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  1. Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:15 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass Really Whipping The Llama's Ass
    Someone unironically said humans have now mastered storing information because of computers and I still think about that and laugh to myself.I'm sorry Zoomers, but you're gonna be real sad when you learn we can't even reliably open text documents from 30 years ago.
    In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:15 JST from bikeshed.party permalink
    • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:51:58 JST mangeurdenuage mangeurdenuage
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      >really find it unlikely that most of the data we're creating is actually *useful* to future generations anyway. Except on a historical level I agree that it mostly useless. I archive a lot of scanned technical books so I have a purpose for such system. But besides that the cost per GB of storage and viability are better than cds/dvds so it has a benefit. Even for useless storage, for example anime, you've got hundreds of gigabytes anime per year and good quality hdds are overpriced nowadays, just buy 50x25Gb of BD-R and it cost you 30 euro bucks instead of 120 euros for 1TB of HDD. I said good quality hdd, not the ones that cost 40~60 bucks and die after 6000hours of usage.
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:51:58 JST permalink
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    • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:00 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass Really Whipping The Llama's Ass
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      • mangeurdenuage
      @mangeurdenuage I really find it unlikely that most of the data we're creating is actually *useful* to future generations anyway.✅ history✅ scientific breakthroughs✅ medicine❌ our terrible programs
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:00 JST permalink
    • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:01 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass Really Whipping The Llama's Ass
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      • mangeurdenuage
      @mangeurdenuage we don't actually have proof that they'll last 1000 years though, we just have some estimates based on our analysis of the materials used. A lot of things can change in 1000 years. Will this medium be susceptible to corruption if we get a massive increase in gamma rays or other highly charged particles?
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:01 JST permalink
    • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:01 JST mangeurdenuage mangeurdenuage
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      >we don't actually have proof that they'll last 1000 years though Oh yes I agree, tbh I don't expect it to last that long I expect at least 50~100 years, at least a human lifetime.
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:01 JST permalink
    • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:02 JST mangeurdenuage mangeurdenuage
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      >I simply refuse to believe any computer will be compatible in 1000 years. I understand your point but I'm just speaking about the longevity/integrity of the physical support, not the software in future.
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:02 JST permalink
    • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:03 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass Really Whipping The Llama's Ass
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      • mangeurdenuage
      • German shitposter
      @mangeurdenuage @besserwisser I've seen that but I wouldn't believe it until we've actually recovered data off it in 1000 years.I don't believe we'll have the hardware to read it. I don't believe we'll have the software to access any files that are not plaintext. I don't believe any binaries will be functional. I simply refuse to believe any computer will be compatible in 1000 years.
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:03 JST permalink
    • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:04 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass Really Whipping The Llama's Ass
      in reply to
      • German shitposter
      @besserwisser we can't even store reliably. Our storage mediums are pretty bad for long term archival. Stone tablets are probably the best thing we've made for longevity
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:04 JST permalink
    • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:04 JST mangeurdenuage mangeurdenuage
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      • German shitposter
      @besserwisser @feldhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC Tested by the USA under ECMA-379 and passed it and tested by the French under ECMA 396 and failed.
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:04 JST permalink
    • German shitposter (besserwisser@kawen.space)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:15 JST German shitposter German shitposter
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      @feld They said storing, not retrieving.
      In conversation Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:15 JST permalink

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