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1. Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:15 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass
   Someone unironically said humans have now mastered storing information because of computers and I still think about that and laugh to myself.I'm sorry Zoomers, but you're gonna be real sad when you learn we can't even reliably open text documents from 30 years ago.
   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:51:58 JST mangeurdenuage

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     >really find it unlikely that most of the data we're creating is actually *useful* to future generations anyway. Except on a historical level I agree that it mostly useless. I archive a lot of scanned technical books so I have a purpose for such system. But besides that the cost per GB of storage and viability are better than cds/dvds so it has a benefit. Even for useless storage, for example anime, you've got hundreds of gigabytes anime per year and good quality hdds are overpriced nowadays, just buy 50x25Gb of BD-R and it cost you 30 euro bucks instead of 120 euros for 1TB of HDD. I said good quality hdd, not the ones that cost 40~60 bucks and die after 6000hours of usage.
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   • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:00 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass

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     @mangeurdenuage I really find it unlikely that most of the data we're creating is actually *useful* to future generations anyway.✅ history✅ scientific breakthroughs✅ medicine❌ our terrible programs
   • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:01 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass

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     @mangeurdenuage we don't actually have proof that they'll last 1000 years though, we just have some estimates based on our analysis of the materials used. A lot of things can change in 1000 years. Will this medium be susceptible to corruption if we get a massive increase in gamma rays or other highly charged particles?
   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:01 JST mangeurdenuage

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     >we don't actually have proof that they'll last 1000 years though Oh yes I agree, tbh I don't expect it to last that long I expect at least 50~100 years, at least a human lifetime.
   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:02 JST mangeurdenuage

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     >I simply refuse to believe any computer will be compatible in 1000 years. I understand your point but I'm just speaking about the longevity/integrity of the physical support, not the software in future.
   • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:03 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass

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     @mangeurdenuage @besserwisser I've seen that but I wouldn't believe it until we've actually recovered data off it in 1000 years.I don't believe we'll have the hardware to read it. I don't believe we'll have the software to access any files that are not plaintext. I don't believe any binaries will be functional. I simply refuse to believe any computer will be compatible in 1000 years.
   • Really Whipping The Llama's Ass (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:04 JST Really Whipping The Llama's Ass

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     @besserwisser we can't even store reliably. Our storage mediums are pretty bad for long term archival. Stone tablets are probably the best thing we've made for longevity
   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:04 JST mangeurdenuage

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     @besserwisser @feldhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC Tested by the USA under ECMA-379 and passed it and tested by the French under ECMA 396 and failed.
   • German shitposter (besserwisser@kawen.space)'s status on Friday, 18-Sep-2020 02:52:15 JST German shitposter

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     @feld They said storing, not retrieving.