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@dave @cy @tk @underwater It's not because of a lack of religion in itself, but I would say that religion was a Chesterton's fence that was unwisely taken down without understanding and replacing its function in building communities.
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@lain @guizzy @cy @dave @sim @tk @underwater doesn't happen for at least christian-variants-in-us-cities either. maybe different in small towns or other religions, but experience here is largely perpetual-church-hopping every time a pastor or priest says something disagreed with, or sometimes everything dissipating at once when it's sufficiently scandalouswhile doing church with parents they went through.... hmmm6 "major" churches (attended for 1 year or more) and like 3 to 6 intermediaries during each transition period. 2 of the major ones dissolved completely. was city-protestant, that, and saw pretty much the same in the catholic families around. one greek orthodox family stayed put because there wasn't anywhere else to go in the city, but were a few in-group scandals and shuffles at least there also
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@guizzy @sim @cy @dave @tk @underwater remember, sim is European. We don't have that kind o religious community in many countries here
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@guizzy @dave @cy @tk @underwater I think it's because we're not in small villages any more... that plays a large role. When you live in a village, you grow up and get to know most other people in the village and you have to get along which creates a chance for community to thrive. We still have religion today, but we lack the community. We don't know each other because there are too many people to know now. Our brains were not adapted to that.
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@sim @cy @dave @tk @underwater >We still have religion today, but we lack the community.I was not brought up that way myself, but from what I see and hear the people who go to church regularly still do build that kind of community, even in big cities. It's something we've lost, and while some people can manage to find themselves another way to build communities, few of them have the breadth that religious ones have (someplace like fedi, for instance, is going to attract a specific style of people), and the fact that there's no default, "catchall" solution means that there's a lot of people who'll just fall between the cracks.
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@shmibs @cy @dave @guizzy @sim @tk @underwater the difference is that church experience in Germany is never going to church
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@lain @cy @dave @guizzy @sim @tk @underwater gather at the moment that father's place is going through another break-up scandal because their pastor said "be nice to black people" or so
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@lain @cy @dave @guizzy @sim @tk @underwater ah hmmm. do you talk with neighbours ever?
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@sim @lain @cy @dave @guizzy @tk @underwater mmm, maybe that's happening more here also, younger generations now
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@lain @shmibs @cy @dave @guizzy @tk @underwater Yeah, growing up we moved churches a few times and then there just wasn't the need to attend. It's not compulsory, and I think more people are moving away from church to have more of a personal connection with god and reading the bible. Or moving away from it altogether.
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