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Also I have never seen anybody recommend Arch for beginners.
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@Moon at our lunix group used to have beginner people come in with random computes, and we'd walk them through an installand then (most of them) just used it forever
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@Moon hmm hmmnever seen that outside of you saying it, i think. but never waited a long time either, at least more than 6 monthsmaybe people not looking at the website for "manual interventions" or who don't know how to update keystore or something?
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@shmibs a thing I've seen multiple times people saying about Arch, is "I waited a long time between updating, and now my system is broken"
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@jeder @Moon dunno but that helped like 10 people install on random machines and then never heard any problems in the next few years
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@Moon @shmibs isn't that the most common error people do when using arch based stuff