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> So Apple's focus on keeping memory consumption under control, which includes but is not limited to going all-in on reference counting where pretty much the rest of the industry has adopted tracing garbage collection, is now paying off in a majory way ("bigly"? Too soon?). They can get away with putting less memory in the system, which makes it possible to make that memory really fast. And that locks in an advantage that'll be hard to duplicate.> It also means that native development will have a bigger advantage compared to web technologies, because native apps benefit from the speed and don't have a problem with the memory limitations, whereas web-/electron apps will fill up that memory much more quickly.So I guess as long as I can find a way to avoid electron I really shouldn't need more than 16GB right now :thinkface:
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@pony @lain @feld what are people doing that needs >16 anyways; that's huge XX
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@lain @feld i heard someone saying in some youtube video that apple now got this "universal memory" thing so 16 gigs are like 32 gigs with other computers
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@feld the bad things about the new macbooks are actually good things - here's why
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@feld @lain @pony regularly am doing such stuff under 16 with no swap. unless that slack is huge? never used before....maybe noswap isn't the best idea, but ????
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@shmibs @pony @lain 4 different browsers, IDEs, building by code, running database, multimedia stuff, 10 slacks, etcIt all adds up quickly
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@feld @lain @pony not had one in some years, kernel panic (or oomkiller-ing etc), since quit using nvidia, but mmmwhat os are you using, or is this macintosh? dunno how that works since never use either; here sit at 0% when doing nothing..
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@shmibs @lain @pony no swap is a terrible idea, unless you like kernel panicshere's my current usage and I'm not even doing anything
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@feld @lain @pony rather than removing, just never bothered setting it up ????maybe some day it will cause a problem and will add it then, or in-mem swap, apparently does mem compression that way
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@shmibs @lain @pony I'm talking about MacOS right nowI wouldn't remove swap on Linux or BSD. Using swap is not a bad thing, it's a very very good thing. It's only bad if you're paging in and out for an active application which should never happen unless your entire system is low on memory.
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