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1. バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Friday, 20-Nov-2020 09:22:20 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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   @icedquinn @lain @sev have seen people get very sick...and, ignoring cause entirely, deaths total have surged compared to "normal year"so
   • Iced Quinn :blobcatverifiedfake: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 20-Nov-2020 09:22:21 JST Iced Quinn :blobcatverifiedfake:

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     @lain @sev i used to believed it existed but was overhyped for effect. now i question if it ever existed.Bulgaria has a succinct argument ( https://iceworks.cc/z/ckhgp407800006cisa76o0wuc ) which tl;dr's there is/was no gold standard to design any testing systems around, only a system known to be not-useful for diagnostics. Which NYT later covered could be used for diagnostics if used correctly, but that no lab uses it correctly ( https://iceworks.cc/z/ckerk0kvr0000fmisjcilwgsm.html ).So the evidence of its existence is "china said so" and "but the death numbers." But there is minor evidence the death numbers are fraudulent and padded (if anyone "has covid" then they "die of covid," yet researchers hold the open secret that everyone tests positive for covid, and there is no reliable test.)Lastly, dissenting doctors are not censored on the grounds that proponent doctors can independently prove (such as with viral samples, which seemingly nobody has, and most of R&D is just trusting the RBAT sample China uploaded but "destroyed.") They are just deleted by big tech censorship. That ain't how science works.:blobcatthonking:
   • lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 20-Nov-2020 09:22:22 JST lain

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     @icedquinn @sev doesn't matter much what random doctors come out with, still have to weigh the situation yourself.
   • Iced Quinn :blobcatverifiedfake: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 20-Nov-2020 09:22:24 JST Iced Quinn :blobcatverifiedfake:

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     @sev @lain meanwhile another doctor, this time out of canada, came out recently and said its a massive scam and there's no evidence to the contrary. :blobcatgoogly:
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     @icedquinn @lain

     > or you hate science and want everyone to die of the totally real plague

     I mean, if I don’t have any other choice

   • Iced Quinn :blobcatverifiedfake: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 20-Nov-2020 09:22:29 JST Iced Quinn :blobcatverifiedfake:

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     @lain obviously you either take experimental mRNA vaccines with 100% adverse effect rates, or you hate science and want everyone to die of the totally real plague :cirno_shrug:
   • lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 20-Nov-2020 09:22:30 JST lain
     The whole anti-vaxxer narrative is as useful as "conspiracy theorist". You can accept some drugs and not others. Just because you take aspirin but not homeopathy you're not an 'anti-drugger'.