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Ok so walmart (or actually any store) can't refuse to do business with someone based on race/gender/religion (see the gay cake debackle), so what if you just added political affilation to that? It's literally modern religion. So if I ran a forum I couldn't bar someone from joining because they're black, but twitter also couldn't censor people because they're supporting conservative ideas
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@thestrongest not a bad argument, but i think it goes into the wrong direction. twitter should be able to block and delete tweets, but bakers should also be able to not bake cakes for people they don't like
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@lain @thestrongest If you want an extravagant cake that happens to be for your gay wedding, you will have no trouble finding someone to bake it for you. I guess that is the difference.maybe it is that if you are silenced by twitter, you practically do not have a voice, if these platforms are so dominant then they probably should cede editorial control in the public interest.
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@Moon @lain @thestrongest think rather "cake is not necessity", and put actual necessities under access-regulation?but that does get complicated at the edges, at what point does food become necessity, groceries but not restaurants?, etc
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@thestrongest i doubt it. people actually were massively racist and sexist in the past in a way that barely anyone is now. the civil rights movement didn't come about by politicians ordering everyone to be not racist. the causality goes the other way. people started becoming less racist and more egalitarian, and political changes followed.
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@lain It'd be nice, but if I can choose not to make a gay cake because of my religion, a muslim could choose not to serve non-muslims (or women). Or I could make up a religion where I discriminate against blacks and use that as my basis for not serving blacks, and all of a sudden it's the 40's again
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@Moon @lain @thestrongest for twitter, don't think it's quite at the do not have a voice point, but it is pushing a boundary maybe, these big platforms areif government action is to be taken, though, ought to go towards promoting decentralisation, open alternatives, rather than moderation-mess; people are frustrated enough, feels, that significant numbers would move if they knew how without the hassleall anyone does on youtub is complain, and monetisation is dropped for "small" videos there anyways now, and people have learnt to use alternative funding sites and so, so moving hosting would be easier now than any time in the past, just needs a push