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1. georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:36 JST georgia
   i'll fuckin say it, white trans women converting to islam are fuckin cringe and they usually have a weird fetish of being the tradwife gfthe only valid reason for a white girl to convert to islam is if she's groomed on the internet to fight in syria or wants to marry a handsome pakistani med student
   • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:20 JST Infected Moomin

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     • Allison Null
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     @eris @allison @georgia I actually agree with you. men are statistically far more violent than women, and for the most part as a society we correctly ascertain that risk and don't treat women and men as equally dangerous.
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:20 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
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     @Moon @eris @allison @georgia if am remembering correctly, "far more" here is something like a 1:2 ratiofrom rates of violent crime and studies on domestic violence
   • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: (eris@disqordia.space)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:24 JST [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:

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     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
     @Moon @allison @georgia well technically it’s always men across cultures that are killing us so maybe men are the real culprit
   • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:25 JST Infected Moomin

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     • Allison Null
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     @eris @allison @georgia they're not intrinsically hateful, they are statistically hateful.
   • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:26 JST Infected Moomin

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     • Allison Null
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     @eris @georgia @allison I personally just said there's no significant acceptance movement that is integrated into the world muslim community. you are going to have gay, trans, whatever muslims just as a function of there being billions of them. they are not accepted.
   • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: (eris@disqordia.space)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:26 JST [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:

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     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
     @Moon @allison @georgia sure but it’s not really any different than my own culture, which contains transphobes as a majority and progressives as a minority. Trans people are murdered on my city and not by Muslims, so I’m not gonna cater to trying to paint Muslims as being intrinsically hateful
   • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: (eris@disqordia.space)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:27 JST [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:

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     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
     @georgia @Moon @allison I mean I know plenty of queer and trans Muslims tho. It’s impossible to generalize about literally billions of people, especially when my own nation (US) is still debating if we should exist
   • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: (eris@disqordia.space)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:28 JST [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:

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     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
     @allison @Moon @georgia in my experience many Muslims are more progressive than anyone I know, unless you’re in a shithole like Saudi Arabia
   • georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:28 JST georgia

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     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
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     @eris @allison @Moon okay but progressive about what. feeding orphans? nice. death to colonialism? (excluding western sahara and northern cyprus ofc) sure. protecc the planet? cool. deviant homosexual sex? hahahaha try asking them about that. or about jews. lmao
   • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:30 JST Infected Moomin

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     • Allison Null
     @allison @georgia there is a large and well-established reconstructed progressive christianity that just doesn't exist in Islam.
   • Allison Null (allison@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:30 JST Allison Null

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     • Infected Moomin
     @Moon @georgia It actually does exist for Islam, it's just not as widespread relatively speaking.
   • Allison Null (allison@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:32 JST Allison Null

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     @georgia It honestly really depends, you could say the same about Christianity or the like as well probably. The one thing to note here is that trans women are not a political or ideological monolith and the ways they reconcile who they are with the society around them are as varied as anyone else really
   • georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:33 JST georgia

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     • Allison Null
     @allison >reasonable>converting to a religion that hates you
   • Allison Null (allison@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:06:34 JST Allison Null

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     @georgia Most of the converts I've spoken with have actually been measured and reasonable about itz but the tradwife "I want to move to Iran uwu" fetishists also exist.
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:23:32 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
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     @georgia @Moon @allison @eris here's bjs for 2019 us, at least; a bit different from remembered, 75 and 21 is like 1:3.6? (and i guess the other 4% had neither). domestic violence estimates are more closer, some actually saying 2:3, but it's difficult to get data about thatstill much closer than people tend to assume, though, think2021-1616814957.png2021-1616814868.png
   • georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:23:33 JST georgia

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
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     @shmibs @Moon @allison @eris dude men commit 95 of violent crime
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:34:45 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • chaotic avocado goblin
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     @georgia @a_breakin_glass @Moon @allison @eris it's more often men who do murdering-strangers-for-fame-and-profit, but when it comes to beating up acquaintances and family members things are fairly balanced, with difference-in-outcome being more a matter of having bigger muscles (and plenty of ways around that, beat-him-over-the-head-with-a-glass-bottle etc)domestic violence shelters and advocacy for men being so rare is an intentional choice on the part of people-in-charge + fear and shame yielding self-censorship in the men involved
   • georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:34:46 JST georgia

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
     • chaotic avocado goblin
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     @a_breakin_glass @allison @eris @Moon @shmibs yes but rarely maiming or deathtell me when there's a female violence against men wikiportal
   • chaotic avocado goblin (a_breakin_glass@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:34:49 JST chaotic avocado goblin

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
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     @georgia @allison @eris @Moon @shmibs I mean, throwing a glass could cause severe harm...

   • georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:34:50 JST georgia

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     • Infected Moomin
     • Allison Null
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     @shmibs @Moon @allison @eris "violent incident" i'm talking about severe harm and death. violent incident includes stuff like slapping and throwing a glass.
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:46:59 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Infected Moomin
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     • chaotic avocado goblin
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     @Moon @a_breakin_glass @allison @eris @georgia reminds of that what was it drama recently, famous actor guy being many-times beaten by wife (including a thrown glass resulting in losing a chunk of finger? XX), and then that wife reporting-accusing him instead
   • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Mar-2021 12:47:00 JST Infected Moomin

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     • Allison Null
     • chaotic avocado goblin
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     @shmibs @georgia @a_breakin_glass @allison @eris mens rights activists, whatever good or bad you can attribute to them overall, showed the absolute unhinged hostility of feminists and the government to having domestic shelters for men in Canada.