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  1. tsumiki :blabcatverified: (ivesen@miniwa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:41:47 JST tsumiki :blabcatverified: tsumiki :blabcatverified:
    so, is the covid "vaccine" a retrovirus or something else ?
    In conversation Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:41:47 JST from miniwa.moe permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:41:45 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      @ivesen what
      In conversation Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:41:45 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:44:40 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
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      @ivesen ...is it a serious question? ortumblr_o87a6hm9lp1rb83a2o1_1280…
      In conversation Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:44:40 JST permalink
    • tsumiki :blabcatverified: (ivesen@miniwa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:44:41 JST tsumiki :blabcatverified: tsumiki :blabcatverified:
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      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @shmibs what
      In conversation Sunday, 30-May-2021 09:44:41 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 30-May-2021 10:58:00 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to

      @ivesen ah, then

      • there are multiple vaccines
      • the ones everyone’s getting all worked up about use a little bloopy lipid vacuole (like a cell’s membrane) to contain messenger RNA
      • your cells use their own mRNA all the time constantly. DNA gets transcribed to mRNA, which is then sent out of the nucleus and used as instructions for making proteins
      • the mRNA from the vaccine’s blob enters your cells and gets used as instructions for building protein, in this case a subcomponent of the virus
      • the subcomponent is the sticky-outy bit that the virus uses to bind to a cell receptor and do a flip-around move to pull itself close and release its contents into the cell
      • so these protein bits gets produced, and then your immune system notices they’re weird and triggers the “time to get sick” response, doing aches or fever or whatever and making antibodies. that way you’ll be able to quickly attack the actual virus if it shows up later
      • like all the other mRNA that your cells produce, the vaccine’s mRNA degrades, its bits get cleaned up, and your cells stop making the protein

      this is very different from a retrovirus, which:

      • comes in fully assembled virions (viable virus particles)
      • has a full genome written in RNA that codes for all the parts needed to assemble whole new virions, not just a single protein bit
      • has a special enzyme called a reverse transcriptase, which converts that RNA into DNA
      • has another special enzyme, called integrase, which integrates that DNA into your cell’s DNA
      • your cells then have the viral genome (called a provirus) as an integrated part of your own genome, and that can then be transcribed back into mRNA that’s used to build new virions
      • the affected cell will be permanently infected, and, if it gets into your germline cells, the provirus can be passed on to children as well, becoming an endogenous retrovirus

      it’s a bit more complicated than that, but

      In conversation Sunday, 30-May-2021 10:58:00 JST permalink
    • tsumiki :blabcatverified: (ivesen@miniwa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 30-May-2021 10:58:01 JST tsumiki :blabcatverified: tsumiki :blabcatverified:
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      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @shmibs as far as I can tell the covid vaccine is described to work exactly as a retrovirus would, so yes, it's a serious question
      In conversation Sunday, 30-May-2021 10:58:01 JST permalink

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