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  1. nikki (nik@letsalllovela.in)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:06:43 JST nikki nikki
    charleston....is a place.....
    In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:06:43 JST from letsalllovela.in permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:06:42 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
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      @nik like best the street lights and things are just kind of hanging there precariously
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:06:42 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:09 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @rats @eris @nik three secret truthsdemocrat baddemocrat isn't communismcommunism bad
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:09 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:10 JST dog dog
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      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @eris @nik or if it wasnt operating under the belief that democrats are commies somehow
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:10 JST permalink
    • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: (eris@disqordia.space)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:12 JST [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
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      @nik if it weren't for the anti communist one I'd be a fan
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:12 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:12 JST dog dog
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      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @eris @nik yeah i was gonna say if it wasnt anti-communist i am like eagerly on board with most of that
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:12 JST permalink
    • nikki (nik@letsalllovela.in)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:13 JST nikki nikki
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      that's a fuck biden flag btw lll
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:35:13 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:39:49 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @rats @eris @nik nah, actual communism is unstable at anything over village size, just like free market. both lead directly to oligarchy/dictatorship
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:39:49 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:39:50 JST dog dog
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      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @shmibs @eris @nik as long as theres an asterisk after 'communism bad' where i get to talk for several pages about my confusion over what people actually mean when they use the term in 2021 im in
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:39:50 JST permalink
    • nikki (nik@letsalllovela.in)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:44:40 JST nikki nikki
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      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @shmibs @rats @eris I'm starting to think anything is unstable over village size
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:44:40 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:44:40 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @nik @rats @eris kinda yeh, mmmthere's a possible equilibrium in carefully balancing powers, corporations vs. government, but it's an unstable equilibrium, so has to be constantly actively managed and will end up sliding off one way or the other in the end anywaysstable equilibrium would require people becoming not human or having a non-human balancing power, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:44:40 JST permalink

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        Culture series
        The Culture series is a science fiction series written by Scottish author Iain M. Banks and released from 1987 through to 2012. The stories centre on The Culture, a utopian, post-scarcity space society of humanoid aliens, and advanced superintelligent artificial intelligences living in artificial habitats spread across the Milky Way galaxy. The main theme of the series is the dilemmas that an idealistic, more-advanced civilization faces in dealing with smaller, less-advanced civilizations that do not share its ideals, and whose behaviour it sometimes finds barbaric. In some of the stories action takes place mainly in non-Culture environments, and the leading characters are often on the fringes of (or non-members of) the Culture, sometimes acting as agents of Culture (knowing and unknowing) in its plans to civilize the galaxy. Each novel is a self-contained story with new characters, although reference is occasionally made to the events of previous novels. The Culture The Culture is a society formed by various humanoid species and artificial intelligences about 9,000 years before the events of novels...
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:46:34 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
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      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @nik @eris @rats even balancing at village scale isn't possible for other great apes, but humans can do it because primitive weaponry made it possible for the weak guy to just murder the bully when he starts being a jerk
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 02:46:34 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:38 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @wizzwizz4 @rats @eris @nik where it's possible your bigger neighbour comes in and stomps on you
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:38 JST permalink
    • wızzwızz ıv (wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:44 JST wızzwızz ıv wızzwızz ıv
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog

      @rats @eris @nik @shmibs Build alternate systems.

      If a system is bad, build another one. Don't try to usurp the original; try to interop with it, and give people more choice. Where this is possible, you can do good; where it's not… you're not doing bad, at least.

      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:44 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:45 JST dog dog
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @wizzwizz4 @eris @nik @shmibs yeah my current politics are basically arising out of reform and revolution both being completely unimaginable to me and wondering how to move forward from that (basically, a sort of non-identitarian improvisational separatism or something like that)
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:45 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:47 JST dog dog
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @eris @nik @shmibs unless you think something like aggressively hierarchical and authoritarian is well-functioning which like: fair enough, but i dont
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:47 JST permalink
    • wızzwızz ıv (wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:47 JST wızzwızz ıv wızzwızz ıv
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog

      @rats @eris @nik @shmibs A load of intersecting narrow-domain authority structures of various scopes and scales can approximate anarchy, so long as there's a strong culture of preventing abuse-of-authority.

      When there's the possibility of an authority-abuser shutting down prevention-of-authority-abuse, your system is going down.

      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:47 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:48 JST dog dog
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @eris @nik @shmibs or at the very least: i'm convinced a well functioning commune/village is possible, im not convinced a well-functioning anything above that size is possible
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:48 JST permalink
    • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: (eris@disqordia.space)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:49 JST [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans: [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • dog
      @rats @nik @shmibs if communism is so good how come it didn't work in my settlement that's slightly above village size
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:49 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:49 JST dog dog
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @eris @nik @shmibs i think you lose the ability to meaningfully create compromise above that size
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:49 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:50 JST dog dog
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @nik @shmibs @eris i only care about village size, anything greater than that is doomed imho
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:10:50 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:14:41 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @wizzwizz4 @rats @eris @nik humans are already extensible. base model human can't counter machine gun human or drone strike human
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:14:41 JST permalink
    • wızzwızz ıv (wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:14:43 JST wızzwızz ıv wızzwızz ıv
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog

      @shmibs @rats @eris @nik Then be crafty. Work from the shadows, or try another angle, or just be legally unstompable (and hope they don't get the law changed). What humans have built, humans can unbuild – this will remain true while bureaucracies are made of humans.

      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:14:43 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:19:40 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @rats @eris @wizzwizz4 @nik that certain human-groups have been upgraded, and making upgrades to counter that would take too long; get eradicated first
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:19:40 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:19:41 JST dog dog
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      • wızzwızz ıv
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @shmibs @wizzwizz4 @eris @nik im not sure i understand what you are getting at
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:19:41 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:22:48 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @rats @eris @wizzwizz4 @nik try to be alive together quietly until something changes, suppose. it's garbage, but idealism-driven rebellion leads to people dying more quickly
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:22:48 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:22:49 JST dog dog
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @shmibs @eris @nik @wizzwizz4 ok what is your suggestion then
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:22:49 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:24:39 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      • dog
      @rats @eris @wizzwizz4 @nik changes have been quick-and-unexpected in the past ┐('~`;)┌i just want my nephlings to not be dead
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:24:39 JST permalink
    • dog (rats@alt.suicide.holiday)'s status on Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:24:40 JST dog dog
      in reply to
      • wızzwızz ıv
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • [:planetvw:] えりす :sparkle_trans:
      @shmibs @eris @nik @wizzwizz4 hopefully jesus is returning soon
      In conversation Monday, 12-Jul-2021 03:24:40 JST permalink

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