@hakui@datenshi DID YOU KNOW THATyour body produces antioxidantsandingesting a lot of (less-effective) antioxidants can convince your body it doesn't need to make them, so in the end the oxidative stress is worse
@hakui@datenshi it's like steroid boys with shrunken genitalia, or women with weird diet that's filled with phytoestrogens. body has detectors to maintain stable levels of things
@datenshi@hakui great apes, unlike basically all other mammals, don't produce vitamin c. there are a whole lot of "antioxidants", though, some of which your body does produce naturally (and vitamin c has a whole lot of other electron-passing jobs beyond just catching shrapnel after your body tears water molecules apart)
@hakui@datenshi yes, so dietary vitamin c is important, but also "vitamins are good" is vitamin-seller propaganda and it's not difficult to take too much and have adverse effects
@shmibs@datenshi vitamins are generics thoughwhy would pharma push so much propaganda when people could just end up buying their competitor's vitaminsmakes more sense for them to be propagandizing their fancy new patent medicines instead
@hakui@datenshi both mother and i were separately recommended to take a vitamin d supplementbecause blood tests showed it was lowand the blood tests showed it was low because people paid money and the labs all raised their cutoff for deficient from 20 to 30 ng, despite federal guidelines
@shmibs@datenshi most doctors don't recommend supplements anymore, it's either drug this or operate thatmaybe they realized there's less money to be made there despite decades of trying to push them?
@hakui@datenshi mmm. just was saying that "doctors recommending" is still a thing. that same result is coming up whenever someone does blood tests, and so doctors get convinced there's a mass deficiency and tell people to go buy it, and then bunch of people do and makers get money
@shpuld@datenshi@hakui vitamin c you can pee out, but excess can possibly suppress antioxidant production, like mentioned above, among other fiddly things
@hakui@datenshi@shmibs you still get more from everything else you eat, it's a supplement not your meal. going past covering deficiencies sounds pointless
@shpuld@datenshi@shmibs 80 is just slightly more than the minimum to prevent visible symptoms of scurvyalso some say the half life of vitamin c is half an hour so
@hakui@datenshi@shmibs 1000mg sounds like waayy too much, the supplements I have have 80mg per tablet and they're 1 per day, and according to the label it should already cover what you need