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  1. バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:12 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
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    • Infected Moomin
    • chjara~
    @Moon @chjara flat statements like "intelligence is 〇〇% heritable" or "〇〇% due to environmental influence" are pretty meaningless. introduce just the right SNPs and you can prevent "intelligent thought" at all, and you can accomplish the same just by locking a kid in a closet for years with no lighting or stimuli. humans are "so similar in intelligence" because they have mostly all the same genetic makeup but also because they're exposed to mostly the same stimuli. it's pretty useless to talk about one without controlling for the other, which no tests are able to do; get into messes like "rich parents tend to have money for food and families all live in the same house with lead pipes" or "children tend to have different personalities from their siblings, because development is a chaotic process. and certain personalities lead them to self-select different environments and stimuli, which in turn produce varying levels of intelligence despite insignificant genetic variance and apparently insignificant variance in environment"and genes have a genomic environment too. certain combinations might matter very much when other variations that do the same amount of allele swapping do nothing etc.all too complicated to really talk about meaningfully
    In conversation Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:12 JST from tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:13 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
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      • chjara~
      @chjara think about it logically, without a genetic base why would humans be so similar in intelligence. we would be all over the place from environmental factors. intelligence outliers aren't genetic though so genius breeding programs don't work.
      In conversation Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:13 JST permalink
    • chjara~ (chjara@is.tuxcrafting.online)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:14 JST chjara~ chjara~
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      • chjara~
      plus for the fact that1. intelligence is not simply inheritable, there are a lot of factors about it2. races are not really different to any large degree genetically. it's mostly just phenotypical. actually hell races are defined phenotypically
      In conversation Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:14 JST permalink
    • chjara~ (chjara@is.tuxcrafting.online)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:15 JST chjara~ chjara~
      in reply to
      • chjara~
      is there a difference between the average IQ of different races? yes. does this mean anything about racial intelligence? not at all lolIQ test results are affected by environmental factors mostly, like lack of education and stress and stuff can lead to relatively lower problem solving skillsbut that's an institutional problem not a genetic one
      In conversation Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:15 JST permalink
    • chjara~ (chjara@is.tuxcrafting.online)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:16 JST chjara~ chjara~
      >race and intelligence discourse again:JessicaBruh: it's just racism. for so many reasons
      In conversation Monday, 09-Aug-2021 00:41:16 JST permalink

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