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@Moon @Hyolobrika what even there is to support about china as us-alternative, though. it's like us except rewind some decades here and there and centralise government more
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@Hyolobrika they don't admit it's collective punishment, you just whittle them down to the point that they admit that what you said is happening but won't talk about it any further. this is all about xinjiang, they denied there was anything even happening there until it was undeniable, then it was job retraining, then it's like, ok a huge ton of people seem to have been enrolled in job training for some reason
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@Moon who has said the third?
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how to defend china online, a guide1. "that isn't happening its western propaganda"2. "ok but it's not happening as much as you say"3. "ok but collective punishment is actually it's good if you think about it"