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  1. sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:23:38 JST sim sim
    "But we need to understand that what we’re fighting is not feminism, properly understood, but something I’ve characterised elsewhere as bio-libertarianism. A worldview that for fifty years now has claimed to act in women’s interests but is increasingly obviously at odds with those interests. It’s a worldview that believes human freedom necessitates radical unmooring from the givens of our bodies."
    In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:23:38 JST from shitposter.club permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:23:37 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      @sim sounds pretty good to me
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:23:37 JST permalink
    • sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:30:56 JST sim sim
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @shmibs Yeah, you might like the article itself. https://unherd.com/2021/11/the-sexual-revolution-killed-feminism/
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:30:56 JST permalink

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        The sexual revolution killed feminism
        from @moveincircles
        Fetishising freedom harms us all
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:30:56 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
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      @sim meant the "radical unmooring from the givens of our bodies" bit. what's so bad about having say in the only thing you're always forced to deal with? rather control this thing than have it sick at me all the time etc.
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:30:56 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:33:39 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      @sim "full body prosthetic" could work, though worry of open-source code and such but
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:33:39 JST permalink
    • sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:33:40 JST sim sim
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @shmibs Depends on the solution I guess.
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:33:40 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:36:42 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      @sim if it was realistic then why would it not be good?(and of course biohacking stuff is much closer than BE A CYBORG but
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:36:42 JST permalink
    • sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:36:43 JST sim sim
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @shmibs Seems like transhumanism to me. I don't think that is realistic or a good solution.
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:36:43 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:40:24 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      @sim then just wire up touch sensors?
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:40:24 JST permalink
    • sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:40:25 JST sim sim
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @shmibs Even if it were realistic, I don't think it would be good for the human psyche. Touch is such an important aspect of our lives. This is even assuming we can move the brain to this new body without killing it.
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:40:25 JST permalink
    • sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:54:00 JST sim sim
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @shmibs Is that realistic? You'd need to wire them up all over the skin. I'm not sure it would work in the same way. Biology is imperfect but it has important ways that it works for us that we don't fully understand yet. I just don't think transhumanism is the answer to that. Not to mention how important it is for women who want to be mothers to have the option to give birth and all the intricacies of that.
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:54:00 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:54:00 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      @sim making haptic sensors with same or better sensitivity as skin is not a problem for modern tech; it's persistent hi-res interfacing with the nervous system that's a big hurdle right now. of course having something practical is far off, and then there's the problem of reduced plasticity in adults etcwe were assuming a world where it's realistic already, though, in which case what's the problem? people are walking around inside robots already, just very messy ones that are prone to falling apart and self-destructing and poor serviceability; how can improving on that be bad?
      In conversation Wednesday, 03-Nov-2021 23:54:00 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Thursday, 04-Nov-2021 00:03:43 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      @sim (more realistic immediate improvements are of course in areas like stem cells for reconstructive surgery and applied gene editing, which are making progress despite the over-hype
      In conversation Thursday, 04-Nov-2021 00:03:43 JST permalink

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