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@lain philosophy would be to get me to write and i never write in a structured manner
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@rizzo @lain @georgia plato was very consciously adopted by the early church and baked into christianity
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@georgia @lain I listen to philosophy podcasts and now I think about forms of Plato and if the Christian god is just the form of good in our society. Because the form of good would be like pure good without any bad in it. Like the essence of good. I feel like maybe western society thinks like what Plato laid out but no one knows it because it's been so heavily absorbed by society. And idk it's just wack
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@rizzo @georgia @lain like the old jewish god was just a really big guy with a physical body, like all the other gods around at the time; he had hands and feet and a face and a big fat アレ etc, and walked around and talked with his closest disciples. "he's so big and strong he can stomp the whole earth flat and crush your puny gods" etc, but still. the christian church adopted that "essence of goodness" kind of god from plato (and naive readings of aristotle) as a replacement, and then we got weirdos like aquinas
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@georgia @lain @rizzo what started up in judaism was being like "he's so powerful you can't look at him, because it'll burn you to death", so normalising a god being unseen
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@shmibs @lain @rizzo yeah Judaism was originally monolatristic. it is wrong to say christianity was where conception of god shifted though. These were changes within streams of Judaism first. And Christianity was one radical stream.
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@georgia @lain @rizzo (but haven't looked this stuff through in some years now, so maybe am dumb about details