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Guys puts his software under agpl until someone pays for it, then it'll be MIT.> https://lwn.net/Articles/878759/One comment:> That's capitalism. If we all lived in a magical communist utopia, then these licenses would not need to exist in the first place. I don't think it's that obvious that licensing is because of 'capitalism'. The concept of intellectual property is very strange and many hardcore free market people would reject it. At least as it exists now, copyright (and patents for that matter) are a government enforced monopoly. "Artificial scarcity" enforced with guns.
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@lain ok, but weren't we talking yesterday about "enforcing scarcity with guns is good actually because otherwise people drink the whole river"?
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@lain mmmkay ｺｸｺｸ, think we pretty agree (maybe not convinced on huge-tracts-of-land here butthen guess follow up (though maybe you're sick of talking about by now) is how that squares with "nft" stuff as it's used for art gallery. is it acquiescence for utility/popularity's sake? or
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@shmibs a few ways to think about it:1. There's no scarcity involved with ideas, in contrast to pretty much every other resource. Rivers will get polluted if you just let everyone put trash in them, but a book doesn't get worse because more people read it.2. It's hard to get to 'intellectual property' from first principles. It's easier to see how homesteading, mixing labor with resources or free trade can lead to regular property rights, but how do you 'own' an idea? You can clearly be the author of an idea, but where does the ownership come from? Even if you don't agree with the idea of normal private property, intellectual property should be even harder to justify.3. There's a utilitarian argument for IP that says that if we didn't have it, ideas wouldn't be produced. This doesn't really seem to be the case though, at least people have been writing, composing, painting before there were copyrights and they are still doing it now that there are copyrights. Disney's first big animation film was "Snow White", a non-copyrighted story.
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@lain mmm mmm, can see that take, "supported the person and got an acknowledgement"; just mean that in practice, apart from people trying to poke fun, the concept seems pretty intimately tied now with ip, "i bought and own that", and looks being imported into proprietary digital environments like games or whatever to further normalise buying/selling/owning "digital objects" there too, makes me a bit scared
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@shmibs No, I don't think so. I think NFTs have nothing to do with IP, really. In an IP-less world, you could still do signed copies of your painting, and if people like your stuff, they'd probably rather buy it from you in a 'special edition' than getting a generic copy done by somebody else. Most importantly, there's no aggression involved. The NFT data is there for everybody to see, and nobody comes to your house to take your stuff away because you 'right clicked'.
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@lain like there's already been very heavy push for object-ifying files on computer, with drm stuff and carefully designed restrictive guis and all that, and this feels like another step in that direction, standardisation
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