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1. Aven (aven@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-2021 01:40:54 JST Aven

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   • Caleb James DeLisle
   • lain
   @lain @cjd >"telephones are stupid, most of the time they are just used by girls to gossip with their friends"I like that comparison. It's like the"bittorrent is for piracy"or more tongue-in-cheek"the internet is for porn"which echoes a frequent sentiment at the time that the internet was for nerds and weirdos, and wouldn't ever be a practical tool.>Sadly, people seem to quickly stop at [...]To play devil's advocate, there are scams and they get some of the loudest voices, both luring more people in, and being talked about after being exposed. Bitconneeeeeeeect! Unfortunately, that's a big portion what what's loud enough to reach the mainstream.You can't say there aren't scams, but the goalpost is unfair because there are plenty of scams outside of crypto too, including in IRL art, which is used in money laundering. So it's kind of pot-meet-kettle. Same as many of the complaints about cryptocurrency being applicable to fiat.In terms of scumminess, this Stan Lee thing (image) pissed me off. Dude's dead and they still won't stop the elder abuse. Of course this in no way reflects on NFTs, but, similar to how pewdiepie described it, some people/companies get the dollar signs in their eyes and do things that make me say "this is why we can't have nice things". There's a lot of that in crypto.
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-2021 01:40:54 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • Caleb James DeLisle
     • lain
     @aven @lain @cjd > You can't say there aren't scams, but the goalpost is unfair because there are plenty of scams outside of crypto too"you can't say there aren't bad <outgroup-members>, but the goalpost is unfair because there are plenty of bad people outside of <outgroup too>"being outside the norm means you get qualifiers, means that people associate the qualifier with whatever they read. and bad things are more stickymurderer vs. *gay* murderer, scam vs. *cryptocurrency* scam
   • Aven (aven@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-2021 01:40:56 JST Aven

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     • Caleb James DeLisle
     • lain
     @lain @cjd ok, I'm changing my mind about this. I'd thought NFT was bad for crypto because it was just another hype-train bubble, with no real new substance underneath.Then I saw some surprisingly good points and nuance made in ???? Meme Review ????https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QZrGGy7uYI actually didn't know that there was more to it than simple proof of ownership. And I though of cryptokitties, clogging up the inter-tubes and increasing gas fees (while being cute but ugh).
   • lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-2021 01:40:56 JST lain

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     • Caleb James DeLisle
     @aven @cjd case in point, a grab bag of 'i hate this':- it's money laundering- it's scammy because people steal art (i'd agree, that's a scam if not communicated)- ALL is a scam (because some people scam)- It's not an investment (can be true or not true, depends on the NFT, and isn't really relevant to the people who are art collectors)
   • lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-2021 01:40:59 JST lain

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     • Caleb James DeLisle
     @cjd there's a real revolution going on with artists being able to support themselves in completely new ways, a lot of very small time artists too. But people are too busy laughing at right-clicking memes to notices.
   • Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-2021 01:41:00 JST Caleb James DeLisle

     I know everybody likes to bag on NFTs, and a lot of what's happening right now is legit overpriced.

     But the concept of cultural artifacts which are owned by people rather than Hollywood media conglomerates. I mean, it's kinda radical.