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as much fun as people larping about de santis being prezzo is he actually isn't representative of most of the USA :cirno_sip:
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@lain @icedquinn @Moon @lelouchebag soil exhaustion angle is pretty fun
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@Moon @icedquinn @lelouchebag slavery isn't a very efficient system, especially if slaves could have run away to the union from the confederacy and be free, something that wasn't possible when all states were part of the union.
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@icedquinn @lelouchebag I don't buy the narrative that the north was mooching off the south, it was the other way around. The bottom line is that there was no future for slavery and perpetuating it hurt everyone.
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@Moon @lelouchebag i'm not sure how fighting a war to keep a stranglehold on half the union that you refuse to respect the autonomy of can be interpreted as good by any means. :blobcatdunno:
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@Moon @lelouchebag washington public schools were pretty heavy on the blacks angle
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@icedquinn @lelouchebag I was in the North and growing up they made it pretty clear in school that the war was about the union breaking up even if they didn't always acknowlege the southern secession was over slavery
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@lelouchebag they tend to sell it in schools as north good south bad south had slaves so south bad the north won so freedom prevailed.they leave out the part where the north literally couldn't into constitutionalism and had to resort to a big war because there was no way to get the votes.@Moon
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@Moon @icedquinn I thought it was when the great depression happened and made everyone think fed government is some sort of hero and can totally be trusted to take care of the people
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@icedquinn People forget this and they're fine with the federal gov basically being the shotcaller. That's why people are pissed about policy because fed gov only cares about like 10 cities since that's all the votes they need whereas rural areas like ohio are essentially at their whim and their vote is meaningless despite who they vote state-side
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@lelouchebag @icedquinn the federal government calls the shots since the civil war because might makes right
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someone is going to but quinn and its like looki appreciate his anticsbut the US isn't supposed to be about angling to get your favorite despot inthe US is about bottom-up power and making sure the top is as disabled as possible so individual states make their own decisionsand only when a supermajority of states decide some topic is a problem does the fed intervene
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@shmibs @icedquinn @Moon @lelouchebag look, 2022 you'll read less soil books and i read less economics books, deal?