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1. augustus pugin ? (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 11:38:04 JST augustus pugin ?
   >'Which is better-to be a pack of painted niggers like you are, or to be sensible like Ralph is?' My memory is not good enough to remember if my English teacher read this part out and dealt with it or if they changed it in print to 'savages'. I'm like 80% sure he said niggers in the classroom
   • augustus pugin ? (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 11:38:02 JST augustus pugin ?

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     • lain
     @lain they no longer have an authority figure to enforce the law on the island so the boys turn into superstitious frenzied savages obsessed with hunting each other down and murdering them. at the end the main character is fleeing them while they burn the island down so they can rip his head off and put it on a stick until he gets saved by an English naval officer. it is pro-law and order, pro-civilisation, subtly pro-colonialism and highly NPC pilled book
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 11:38:02 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     @augustus @lain don't think that was the point (read like 15 years ago butwasn't it rather that the boys at first were all nice and kind and getting along, but it's one in particular (what'shisname anti-ralph) who starts a power struggle and uses all the ritual and depersoning->killing to take overlike that, and given being a 50s book, seemed pretty clear "fascism and dictators" reference
   • lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 11:38:04 JST lain

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     @augustus so all the boys were gamers?
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 12:10:51 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • lain
     @lain @augustus given significant resource scarcity and population > 1, people must necessarily have power over one anothergiven a population of significant size (depends on temperament and degree of scarcity, but something between 2 and 100?), uniform resource distribution becomes both impractical (cannot sustain life) and unenforceable (people steal things)and so every distribution is unfair to someone. danger of bias towards the distribution that favours you and only kills other people
   • lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 12:10:53 JST lain

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     @shmibs @augustus i read on wikipedia they started a democracy and then killed each other, very true to life
   • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 12:14:08 JST バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;

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     • バツ子（痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
     @lain @augustus (before even considering that distributions have varying degrees of instability and can evolve into something that does kill you later