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I listened to a few episodes of the "decoding the gurus" podcast recently, a podcast trying to counter IDW types like the Weinsteins but also other non-woke lefty types like rogan or Harris.I found it to be rather uninteresting except for one thing: they had an episode about Sam Harris and later did one with him as a guest. The transformational power of actually taking with the guy instead of about him was astounding. One of their points of criticism (he has a free trial mode for his meditation app and gives out perpetual free access on request, which they took as a pure money making strategy) suddenly became praiseworthy generosity, a 180 degree turn.There might be a few lessons here.