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@Alex @cryborg @georgia given that sexual dimorphism is hormone-driven (is to say that everyone has the genes laying around to build either kind of body), "genetic" in this context would mean "genetic variations that make one more or less susceptible to hormonal signalling" or else "genetic variations that make one produce more or less of some hormone" (though one might also see in the data things relevant to e.g. openness, how likely one is to actually act on certain feelingsmost obvious of such would be conditions with names like cah / ais, but can be more subtle effects as well
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@cryborg @georgia As I said, it's not a subject I know much about, most of my information on this is second or third hand at best, and as I'm not a medical professional, let alone one specialized in reproduction, I can only go off of what I've heard. I've seen many people - both trans and cis - claim that hormones someone is exposed to in the womb can have an impact on their gender identity. The theory I've most often seen is that exposure to one set of hormones at a certain stage of development can lead to the brain developing into a "male brain" or "female brain", and that is theorized to be one potential cause of gender dysphoria. Of course, that's just a theory, and I'm not an expert; it does sound like it'd make sense, but I've got no idea if that's even a commonly accepted theory, something that's ever been proven (or which even could be proven), or if it's just something some random person made up that ended up catching on in some circles.It's undeniable that a mother's health, hormones, nutrition, etc, have impacts on their baby's development. The question is how much of an effect certain things have, and whether or not any of these things can have an impact on things such as the child's gender identity, orientation, etc; they may be "born that way" but what exactly determines why they're born that way? How much of it is genetics and how much of it is just what the mother's body provided? Some cultures had theories that eating certain types of foods or performing other specific acts could have an impact on the child's sex or personality, for example, so it's not like it's an extremely new concept to think that what a mother does while pregnant - or even what her body provides to the child while pregnant - can have an impact on them. It wouldn't be eugenics to research these things and try figuring out what causes what; it WOULD be eugenics to say "Doing X increases the chance of Y so pregnant women need to be banned from doing X (or forced to do X)" or something like that, which I'm not interested in; I just want to know how and why these things happen. I feel like in modern society it's somewhat taboo to ask about what causes someone to be gay or trans or otherwise LGBT - however, I'm an extremely curious person, and I'm interested in knowing why, exactly, I am the way that I am. I'm not content to simply say "I have gender dysphoria", I want to know why I do.
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@Alex @georgia not health but saying testosterone makes u gynephillic tho. or that certain hormones make u transsexual?
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@cryborg @georgia Maybe? I dunno if something like a mother's health while pregnant and stuff like this counts as eugenics. Is it eugenics to say stuff like "don't drink while pregnant"? I view this as something similar to that concept.
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@Alex @georgia huge eugenics vibe lol
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@georgia Interesting. I've often seen claims that transexuality and autism are linked in biological males. I wonder if those links in males and these links in females have any connection, or if it's just coincidence. I'd heard that testosterone is connected to gynephilia but I didn't know about its connection to autism. It's not a subject I know much about.It's fascinating how much of an impact hormonal imbalances in the womb have on a person's development and life. Really shows how important a mother's health during pregnancy is for her child's health; something so small can completely change the person's entire life, before they're even born.
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@Alex yes. autism is testosterone linked and so is gynephilia (attraction to women)
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@georgia Homosexuality and autism are linked in women?
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this is also why i'm autistic
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i'm not gay cause i had no dad i'm gay cause my mom has PCOS and her uterus had extra testosterone in it making me gynephilic
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