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One of the most annoying thing about academics is how content they are with their thoughts being locked up in $60 Harvard University press books.
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@chuculate not if they want a job in academia
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@lain For crying out loud, can't they blogpost?
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@lain @chuculate eh, blogs and podcasts and things run by are super 人気
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@lain @chuculate experience here has been mostly that the academia-people do really care about getting ideas "out there", write blogs, make podcast, post lectures on youtub, email their own papers and manuscripts and things to people freely when asked, and get excited replying and conversing when someone sends an email that's thoughtfulbut also don't care for or know about money much at all, so they get easily exploited by others who want profits
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@chuculate @lain say things like "please don't buy the $100 overpriced hardcover; that's for library stock they do that. get the paperbacksome popular podcast things:
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@Chimera @lain I didn't say any of that thoughResearch costs money, especially in fields like biology, chemistry, ... and without sci-hub and other methods of piracy, that'd be even more expensive as you would need to pay to look at other research too (and I'm afraid paid articles are going away anytime soon).If you don't have any "independent group" (let's pretend a state is that) financing that research, then it'll be entirely left to companies to finance research, usually for their own goals. They can decide to make that research completely private, if they want to (and they usually do, which makes sense: you put money into that, you don't want your competitors to benefit from it). It used to be royalty and nobles financing research for figuring out solutions to problems, and nobles working in research: they already had a lot of the money for it, and they knew the right people.Working a side job to finance your own independent research, depending on what you do, is often not viable. You'll also be easily very limited in what you can do and how far it can go.Not trying to advocate for "governments should finance research", "governments shouldn't finance research" or anything like that; but all of those systems clearly have limits. We are definitely spending a lot of money in doing stupid research, re-doing things that have been done 10x better before etc or financing frauds, but it's not an easy problem to tackle, I don't think it's as simple as you say it
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@lain i'm glad that sci-hub and libgen exist now, but i find it really messed up indeedthe revenue system for academia is really messed up (particularly in France...) and it doesn't seem like there are much alternatives to ensuring academics get decent income without doing this "publish in journal -> get paid -> help sci-hub/libgen in pirating it" dance...
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@helene @lain I disagree, I don't think they should just get paid to do this just because. I know a guy who has a PhD in math, and he works a job at a coffee place to pay his bills and does math almost in the time he's not working. Einstein worked at a patent office. I just don't think paying the exact crowd who couldn't cut it in their field, and who don't have the drive to work on these projects in their own time is worth my taxpayer money while also using universities to financially cripple the next generation while also turning them into sycofant cargo cultists.
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