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  1. kaia (kaia@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:33 JST kaia kaia
    > German state TV: water-driven power generation is non-ecological:puniko_sigh:
    In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:33 JST from shitposter.club permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:22 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • Infected Moomin
      • Taylan Kammer
      @Moon @taylan @kaia sabine is a very smart woman, but she overplays the internet contrarian position for effect, and sometimes a little sloppily (good to have someone play that role, though, counter all the "true believersbut her book is good!, worth readingand for mars, beyond just the problem of getting people there and not deadly-irradiated and insane, there's also gravity disparity and lack of magnetosphere/atmosphere shielding meaning you'd need to live trapped in like an underground centrifuge and watch for coronal ejectionsthen the question of why you even bothered using all those resources to get here etc
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:22 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:23 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
      in reply to
      • Taylan Kammer
      @taylan @kaia I'll watch it, thanks. I'm always interested in the opinion of people with domain knowledge since I don't have any.
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:23 JST permalink
    • Taylan Kammer (taylan@pl.tkammer.de)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:25 JST Taylan Kammer Taylan Kammer
      in reply to
      • Infected Moomin
      @Moon @kaia Sabine Hossenfelder has a really nice video on why Mars colonization is a fairly absurd pipe dream.(She's a highly experienced no-bullshit physicist and her arguments are based purely on scientific considerations, not anything political. I can only recommend.)
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:25 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:27 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
      in reply to
      • Infected Moomin
      • Taylan Kammer
      @taylan @kaia I know this opinion could be written off as an unrealistic solution that prevents a realistic solution from happening so nothing happens. I just, well, we went to the moon in the 60s we should have already been populating Mars by now.
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:27 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:28 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
      in reply to
      • Taylan Kammer
      @taylan @kaia I don't believe we will solve any problems by depopulating, I believe problems get solved through increased specialization as population grows. We should be planning to populate space so we can grow without turning the planet into a hellscape.
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:28 JST permalink
    • Taylan Kammer (taylan@pl.tkammer.de)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:29 JST Taylan Kammer Taylan Kammer
      in reply to
      • Infected Moomin
      @Moon @kaia Don't think that's a novel realization. :blobcatjoy: Humans really need to depopulate quite a bit. We're an invasive species.I heard one of the best ways to decrease birth rates is to improve women's rights. Comes out that when they have human rights, education, and therefore proper chances in life, it's less likely that they will end up being used as a baby machine by some backwards guy who wants to have lots of minions.Pretty smart really. Two birds with one stone.
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:29 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:30 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
      in reply to
      @kaia it turns out the destructive environmental threat was us all along
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:30 JST permalink
    • kaia (kaia@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:31 JST kaia kaia
      in reply to
      • Infected Moomin
      @Moon yeah true. and solar energy covers farm land, wind generators are loud, unseemly and kill birds.... :airisigh:
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:31 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:32 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
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      @kaia damming up rivers I guess destroys habitat of everything downstream
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:31:32 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:35:54 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • Infected Moomin
      • Taylan Kammer
      @Moon @taylan @kaia the lost bone mass / muscular atrophy / heart-turning-into-a-blob is a huge problem for brief stint astronauts as is, and mars is like 40% surface gravity was it?
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:35:54 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:35:57 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • Taylan Kammer
      @shmibs @taylan @kaia is the gravity issue that bad, I know you could never come back to earth without your lungs collapsing though
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:35:57 JST permalink
    • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:38:47 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      in reply to
      • Infected Moomin
      • Taylan Kammer
      @Moon @taylan @kaia they do the same thing, just like wasting when you stay in bed too long except worse for your heart because blood-pumping anticipates gravity to work against
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:38:47 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:38:48 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • Infected Moomin
      • Taylan Kammer
      @shmibs @kaia @taylan just do jumping jacks and take vitamins
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:38:48 JST permalink
    • Infected Moomin (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:38:49 JST Infected Moomin Infected Moomin
      in reply to
      • バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;;
      • Taylan Kammer
      @shmibs @taylan @kaia I just wasn't sure if the problem was zero gravity or less gravity.
      In conversation Tuesday, 03-May-2022 20:38:49 JST permalink

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