Notices by Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)
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Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:29 JST 
Steven
Peertube is cool but I don't think it has any potential for catching on tbh. The draw of video hosting platforms is virtually unlimited, permanent, and universally easy access use.Only point of Federation in that context is so you can suscribe from your Pleroma account, but Peertube Federation never works, so you can't do that.Bitchute is good enuf and at the very least they have an obligation as a company not to shut their service down without warning like any Peertube can at any time, so I'd sooner point people at that. -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:27 JST
Steven
@alex I just don't understand what Federation adds to the equation in the case of audio-visual hosting.Actual decentralization might be good, if it's fast enough, so minimal data gets lost. No one has been able to accomplish that yet though. -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:16 JST
Steven
@verita84 @alex Exactly, which is a big problem. You can't just move to a new Peertube instance once you're established if the rules change, it's too much to move, that strips you of a lot of the inherent freedom that it gives you with something as disposable as text communication.The Pleroma Network Federation TM simply will not scale to anything deeper than image hosting. :robcolbert: -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:14 JST
Steven
@lain @alex @verita84 Bitchute still has that too IIrc.I know a lot of people don't trust Fred Brennan but in his article last year he presented the case that even taking that into account, they're still most likely tanking the majority of it. Who knows if that scales beyond where hosting becomes unaffordable anyway?Skepticism of the (((scalability))) should be kept in mind until proven otherwise, I think. -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:13 JST
Steven
@lain @alex @verita84 So I hear, but no one has been able to make it profitable yet. -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:12 JST
Steven
@lain @alex @verita84 That's not really true, though, they just shut down and are forgotten about. I have one in particular that shut down maybe 3 or 4 years ago but the name escapes me. Bitchute burns through tens of thousands of dollars with maybe 100K views a day site-wide (number pulled straight from my ass, it could be half that or thrice that, but it's not tiny.) The YT (((Skeptics))) tried one like 10 years ago, before Youtube was so insurmountably dominant, failed.They all reach a point where they can't pay their bills. As far as we know Youtube is still basically charity work, burning through more than it makes.I'd like to see the actual math on it. I suspect it seems cheap until you start growing, and suddenly you can't pay it off with your day job and all the ads in the world won't give you enough pennies to make up the difference. -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:10 JST
Steven
@lain @alex @verita84 Do we know when Youtube started making money? If it's not parasiting off Alphabucks anymore I imagine it's from the paid subscriptions they've pushed in recent years. Same for porn sites, right?Somehow I don't think that will work for Peertube. -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Oct-2020 05:18:08 JST
Steven
@lain @alex @verita84 Right, but that gets back around to what I was saying before. What's the benefit of the current Federation to video hosting? Very little, I think, at least in the current iteration. The benefits of the model only apply to small, disposable data. Text and images, and not much more than that.What might change that is nomadic channels with the ability to export everything to another instance with reasonable convenience. I don't know if that's even possible without breaking anything. Maybe someone should build a new protocol for it or something if not. No reason video hosting needs to be on the same "Fediverse" as us if it has to exist. -
Steven (boob@neckbeard.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Oct-2020 12:17:37 JST
Steven
@roka @Azurolu Probably?Pretty sure it was not a probably.
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