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@igel America seems kinda fucky but at least you can call out the government for their shit without ending up in a labour camp
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@igel @NeikoCat I wish I could have visited Europe before the migration waves of the 90's.
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@Moon @igel @NeikoCat germany at least is still quite nice out in the countrysidethe germans are wonderful people too, i never realized just how devoid of basic humanity 99% of americans are until i saw how kind, respectful, and friendly practically all germans are
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@NeikoCat @Moon germany is perfect we just need less germans tbh
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@Moon @igel like most places
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@NeikoCat @igel yeah we have a lot of problems too.
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@Moon @igel nice landscapes and 1st amendment is cool, the healthcare system is scary asf
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@NeikoCat @igel there are a lot of nice things about America.
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@velartrill @lain @Moon @NeikoCat @igel i've been most places around the us (nothing east of michigan/north of carolinas but), and culture really does vary widely.people are generally kind and caring here, phoenix. not the old rich people maybe, mostly come here late in life and use it as a second "wintering" city, but the people you meet on the bus, everyone knows that to be there instead of a car you must be going through the same garbage and will generally stick up for you. had a woman save me from a pair meth heads once by like scolding them into embarrassment, sort of thing happens every day, and if you're not acting rich pretty much anyone is open for conversation, even if it's just complaining about work or whatever
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@lain @Moon @NeikoCat @igel german immigration policies are actually pretty cruel and unreasonable tbh (tho by american standards they're downright welcoming). mostly i'm just stunned by the quality of life here and how well people treat each other, how few people wind up homeless, how the state actually takes an interest in protecting people, and how there's an actual sense of community. (e.g. i keep talking to europeans who are totally shocked when they find out there's basically no welfare or no "duty to rescue" whatsoever in the US and you're always entitled to let others die except in extremely specific circumstances, mostly for doctors.) germans seems to have high expectations of themselves and each other, and i've almost never seen the kind of abject, careless selfishness that's just standard in the US.also everything is so affordable; we don't have to burn our entire income on rent anymore, and the entire country is just beautiful beyond belief
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@velartrill @Moon @NeikoCat @igel i think for you, europe is perfect. it's good to have actually different countries around the world with sensible immigration policies so people can move around a bit.
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@lain @Moon @NeikoCat @igel hahaha "ambitious"we mostly just want not to starve, die of exposure, or be worked to death at this point. europe seems like literal paradise by comparison
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@Moon @NeikoCat @igel america is really a great country, americans are just more ambitious than most other countries so they think it's worse than it is.
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