@kaikatsu@lain i'm married to another borderline, we are obsessively and obnoxiously in love with each other, and if it weren't for the rona, the language barrier, and the distance from my american friends even *we*'d be having people over constantly, to say nothing of "emotionally healthy" normiesthen again normies often seem to us unable to meaningfully bond so who knows
@kaikatsu all the married ppl i know say the same thing about marriage: "we didn't think it would make a difference but we're even happier now than we were before." for marriage to worsen your life either you or your spouse has to be such a terrible, broken, selfish person that they're incapable of meaningful commitment & sacrifice imo.anyway in my case marriage was the end of 26 years of extreme and almost continuous emotional suffering & loneliness, saw the end of my depression, and gave me a life worth living for the first time ever, in the process rescuing me from the crushing near-destitution i spent my entire adult life trying to survive under and giving me & my partner a lower-middle-class income. ymmv
winter (velartrill@pleroma.site)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Aug-2020 23:07:44 JST
winter"Dutton argues that this breakdown of patriarchal religion will have terrible consequences for females, because they have been selected to live in a patriarchy:> "Females are also evolved to a patriarchal society in which decisions tend to be made for them by their fathers and husbands. With the breakdown of patriarchy, it has been argued that we would expect females—especially young females—to make particularly maladaptive decisions. These would include strongly aligning with a religion that seeks to destroy their ethnic group and effectively encouragers them to be childless."In other words, white females would be attracted to religion that claims that “White Lives Don’t Matter.”"Females do not tend to create and lead religions. But they are religion’s most fanatical enforcers."And is this nowhere better illustrated than in the BLM movement."https://www.unz.com/article/blms-white-female-fanatics-big-sister-is-watching-us-but-why/this is a lot to think about
@shmibs > understand what you mean, but still rather disagree. not on "women are more interested in people", but on how that fits into things here*shrug* you can disagree all you like, but the statistics are what they are.> and programming, honestly, is very much this same sort of activityprogramming makes my brain hurt and it's extremely unrewarding. i only do it when nobody else is going to and it'll make my life easier in the long run, and i still frequently run out of motivation because it's just so unpleasant. i'd rather help organize development than do it myself. given that where women are involved with dev work, it's usually in a managerial role instead of a codemonkey one, i suspect i am not the only one who feels this way. i'd never consider working in tech except as a tutor or organizer.i was also taught to code very early on in life by another woman, who used to write fortran for boeing, so i know in my case that social norms have nothing to do with it.> the two big dips in women-in-tech percentage (as i remember it; would need to find the data again to confirm) seemed to correspond to first home video-game consoles and then home internet accessit seems very weird to ignore the fact that women left tech for other, more feminine jobs when those jobs opened up to us, but instead point at video games and the internet and claim that those are somehow responsible for oppressing women out of Computers. it's looking for a conspiracy theory to explain what is already fully explained.> the narrative became "computers are for games", "computers are for guys", "computers aren't something i can do with my friends".if a mere narrative is enough to stop you from getting into a field, you're clearly not very interested in that field. even if this was true it would reinforce my point, not detract from it.> biased towards people who stayed home aloneyeah, that's true, all those househusbands got to spend time tinkering with computers while their wives were at work earning the family enough income to survive :p> also, if you don't buy any of that, then maybe at least could agree on web-design type stuff? traditional graphic design has plenty of women involved, and those i've known who got past the initial "computer :c" ick phase ended up really enjoying ityup. frontend web design is the only dev thing that many women seem to enjoy. (this has unforuntate consequences in terms of javascript proliferation, but i digress.) one of my moms was a graphic designer and she was very good at it. pretty computer-literate. but never learned any programming languages, despite having a computer very early on in the history of home computing when writing your own software was much more common. but you could not pay her to touch a compiler.
@shmibs because women did not have very many other job options. as soon as jobs we liked more opened up to us, we got right the fuck out of CS and never looked back"women are more interested in people, men are more interested in things" is probably the single strongest difference between the psychology of the genders (effect size ~1.1 iirc) we've discovered, which i think makes it even more consistent than the difference in dominant/submissive social role orientation preference
@lain dang. i think the most unusual languages they had at mine were norwegian (which was taught by like one professor who seemed to be on sabbatical or something) and japanese. iirc they didn't even have latin, let alone sanskrit
@lain high school?? my hs only had spanish, french, and japanese. and they got rid of french after i lefti was a weirdo for taking spanish and french instead of just spanish, which nearly everyone else took just to get their language credit out of the way
@lain to some extent that's true but mostly not because if it was none of these fancy whizz-bang doodads we use to scam and harass each other from afar would work
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