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Homo sapiens have been around for 200,000 years. Oldest man made structure was like 10,000 years ago. Wtf were we doing before then. Like I figure we just wiping all of the other human races out and that why we write books with orcs and elves and stuff.
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@rizzo pretty-much-humans have had millions of yearsjust domesticating crops takes a long time
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@rizzo (where "millions" is ~2million ????, but
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@shibao oh wait it might be because the Holocene was the start of a more stable climate change. We invented agriculture at the beginning-ish of the Holocene.
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@shibao that's wack. Why'd everyone invent agriculture around the same ish time. Was it cuz they had finally finished wiping out all the other humans?
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@rizzo we didn't start agriculture until recently, until then people spent a ton of energy just trying to forage to survivealso like teepees/leanto's and even like wood structures don't stick around for that long if people aren't actively maintaining iteven like rock structures degrade, but you generally need to have stable food to be able to build one of those
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@rizzo @shibao nah, incas were doing about as well as possible, given the situation. they lived in the world's messiest bunch of ecosystems, where it's like "rainforest, desert, mountains!" all right next to each other and almost impossible to get around. put a huge amount of effort into making roads, but still with that and nothing around bigger than llamas, so no animal transport, a more integrated civilisation was impossible, bunch of independent regions all speaking different languages still
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@shibao idk fam I think the Incas would have done better if they hadn't made a couple mistakes. And also if the Europeans didn't have so many diseases from living in overpopulated cities.
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@rizzo well it didnt really, it kind of evolved semi independently on both continents except the eastern continent was so much farther ahead by the time they made contact it wasnt a fair fight at allalso eastern hemisphere had basically all the domesticatable animals, i really like an episode of luke smith's podcast which is really interesting: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/notrelated/S01E05_-_The_Agricultural_Revolution_Has_Been_a_Disaster_for_the_Human_Race.mp3