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バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; (shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:34 JST バツ子(痛いの痛いの飛んでけ;; @lain @thatguyoverthere @loonycyborg @cjd @taylan thread of alt-rebels -
lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:36 JST lain @cjd @thatguyoverthere @loonycyborg @taylan I find it kinda funny in retrospect that the word 'skeptic' in the new atheist sense means 'believe everything the cathedral tells you'. -
Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:37 JST Caleb James DeLisle @thatguyoverthere @loonycyborg @taylan @lain
The Golden Compass was a epic-length take-down of the scientific community disguised as an attack on religion.
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thatguyoverthere ن (thatguyoverthere@charlestown.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:46 JST thatguyoverthere ن @loonycyborg @lain @cjd @taylan this is more what I mean when I say peer review. Actually sitting down and running am experiment to reproduce the results. The old scientific method. Not the modern idea of making sure they don't have any obviously bad math or typos and signing it as sound science.Yes the publish or perish model is junk and results in junk science -
loonycyborg (loonycyborg@fediverse.wesnoth.org)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:47 JST loonycyborg @lain @thatguyoverthere @cjd @taylan Each science result needs to be independently verified by others to be in any way dependable. "Peer review" is merely a part of publishing it. The reason that people aren't in any hurry to reproduce most stuff is because most of papers are junk existing for no other reason than to satisfy "publish or perish" model. -
lain (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:49 JST lain @cjd @thatguyoverthere @taylan i'd suspect they are more biased than the average population, not least because of peer review, which encourages group think. -
Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:50 JST Caleb James DeLisle Also a lot of results are hard to interpret in even the best of cases. Daniel Kahneman's "thinking fast and slow" really clarified how hard it is to NOT misinterpret data.
So my point is that everyone has biases, scientists are supposed to overcome them, and they mostly don't. See: Failure to reproduce results.
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thatguyoverthere ن (thatguyoverthere@charlestown.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:51 JST thatguyoverthere ن @cjd @taylan yeah the process is supposed to correct for bias with peer review. Unfortunately you can make your money before your peers can review your stuff, and if your research aligns with the zeitgeist it's likely disagreeable peers will be ganged up on and cast as kooks. -
Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:33:52 JST Caleb James DeLisle @taylan Exactly, nobody avoids cognitive bias :D
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Taylan Kammer (taylan@pl.tkammer.de)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:34:01 JST Taylan Kammer @cjd No need to be so cynical. Scientists aren't any more or less likely than anyone else to be biased. -
Caleb James DeLisle (cjd@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:34:02 JST Caleb James DeLisle @taylan Lol they don't ????
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Taylan Kammer (taylan@pl.tkammer.de)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 08:34:03 JST Taylan Kammer How scientists can avoid cognitive bias.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNeD2a95ROE
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