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  1. ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ (nmkj@songbird.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:43 JST ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​

    ところで、すじやんの会社がケイマン諸島なのは租税回避が目的なのか?

    In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:43 JST from songbird.cloud permalink
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    • Suji Yan (sujiyan@mstdn.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:45 JST Suji Yan Suji Yan
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      @nmkj I also fear US is having much worse regulation on social networks, considering pawoo have lots of anime content.

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:45 JST permalink
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    • ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ (nmkj@songbird.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:46 JST ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​
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      • Suji Yan

      @Sujiyan That sounds like you're allowing potentially illegal stuff in the US and/or JP. (to be fair, I'm not saying that their laws are absolutely good)

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:46 JST permalink
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    • ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ (nmkj@songbird.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:48 JST ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​
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      • Suji Yan

      @Sujiyan So, as I said here: https://songbird.cloud/@nmkj/109550090784247984 I don't think you could say "social services are infrastructure", with the reason in mind why you have decided to establish your company in Cayman Islands. That's my feelings though.

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:34:48 JST permalink

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        Namekuji (@nmkj@songbird.cloud)
        from Namekuji
        Pawooは小児性愛の画像投稿を大量に含むから、アメリカの法律は怖くてケイマン諸島にしたというのは理屈としてはわかるんだけど、じゃあそういうコンテンツを許す方向なんだっていうのは別の話よな。日本じゃ無いということは日本の法律にも触れる投稿を想定してるってわけだし。 すじやんがPawooをもつこと自体はいいんだけど、同じ人が「SNSは公共のインフラである」と主張するのは筋が通らないんじゃないかとちょっと思った。 https://mstdn.jp/@Sujiyan/109549937191415267
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    • Suji Yan (sujiyan@mstdn.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:35:01 JST Suji Yan Suji Yan
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      @nmkj I think social network should be infra of the upcoming network state. It just happen to be also reside in countries such as Japan and US

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:35:01 JST permalink
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    • ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ (nmkj@songbird.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:31 JST ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​
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      • Suji Yan

      @Sujiyan If you meant the word "infra" as a technical thing, I guess you're right. But a company won't have my trust, which provides "infra" involving various people and at the same time has been established for the reasons to avoid laws.

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:31 JST permalink
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    • Suji Yan (sujiyan@mstdn.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:32 JST Suji Yan Suji Yan
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      @nmkj I’m referring to this https://mstdn.jp/@Sujiyan/109515742524086046

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:32 JST permalink

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        Suji Yan (@Sujiyan@mstdn.jp)
        from Suji Yan
        「Network Stateとは、集団的な行動を伴うオンラインコミュニティであり、物理的な居場所をクラウドファンディングで集め、最終的には既存の国家から外交的な承認を得られるような社会的ネットワークである。」
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    • ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ (nmkj@songbird.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:36 JST ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​
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      • Suji Yan

      @Sujiyan sorry I can't get your point. I don't know if this is a quotation from someone else or your own statement.

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:36 JST permalink
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    • Suji Yan (sujiyan@mstdn.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:44 JST Suji Yan Suji Yan
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      @nmkj instead saying registered in off shore counties is avoiding regulator I’d say the cyberspace is independent from nation state government sooner or later. You can checkout 1996’s ‘A Declaration of Independence of cyberspace’ and further works such as ‘sovereign individual’, ‘Network State’

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:36:44 JST permalink
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    • ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ (nmkj@songbird.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:37:17 JST ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​ ナメクジ :QueerCat_Aromantic:​
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      • Suji Yan

      @Sujiyan now I see your point, and I felt it's quite like anarchism, I can't say it's good or bad anyway. The point is, I think, it always ends up in the fact that you're going to be the regulation, otherwise your infra could be "free-for-all hellspace", with the fact in mind that so many servers decided to block Pawoo. (I don't like to quote one billionaire's word though)

      In conversation Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 18:37:17 JST permalink

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