Notices by cirnog (cirnog@poa.st), page 2
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@shmibs >objects do exist, but only inside the minds of people.Again if you believed this you would've already starved to death because food only exists in your mind so you can't even eat it.People like you can say they believe objects don't exist, but every action you take betrays their reality. Likewise randomly saying computer jargon is not an argument, but it's very indicative of confusion.
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@shmibs Saying that your hands do not exist because in Japanese the word 足 can mean either foot or leg, is not a compelling argument.Strong reductionism where you start saying that objects don't exist and we can't understand them is incoherent, because we both know you can recognize exactly what hands are when you say they're not real.But what about Loki's wager? how can I cut off his head if I can't say precisely where his neck begins and ends? Well I grab my axe and cut his head off simple as.If you actually believed what you say, then you would've starved to death due to not knowing what food is.
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@shmibs You expect me to take you seriously after saying that "hands" aren't real?
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@shmibs Solipsism is false because it makes you say retarded shit like this.
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@shmibs Nigger if I have 2 apples in one hand and 2 apples in the other, I have 4 apples, regardless of how many people are alive. A toddler understands this better than you
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@shmibs No retard, abstract concepts exist because ending all life on earth doesn't make 2 + 2 = (anything of than 4), so the laws can't just exist in your head. Exactly how they exist is irrelevant, which is why nobody's talking about plato.
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@shmibs It's everything that isn't solipsism
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@shmibs cool opinions, has nothing do with what we're talking about, that laws exist outside of your small head
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@shmibs plato didn't invent truth retard
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@shmibs Mathematical truths exist regardless of the symbols used to describe them, nobody is talking about plato.
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@shmibs >if our brains and the books disappeared then the laws would disappearNo they wouldn't, committing genocide doesn't magically make 2 + 2 = 67Stop being stupid.
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@shmibs If our brains and those books disappeared would the laws stop working? If you kill yourself really hard do all the laws disappear?You do understand that your mental understanding of physical laws is different from the laws themselves right?
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@shmibs What's the physical address of the law of non-contradiction? I want latitude and longitude coordinates to go see the law of conservation of angular mommentum. Where can I buy a microscope that lets me directly see modus ponens?Since you say laws are physical you should be able to give me physical locations and details of them.
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@shmibs The laws of logic are not physical and yet they interact with the physical world, the laws of physics are not themselves physical but they interact with the physical world.Spirits are not physical but they interact with the physical world, your soul is not physical but it interacts with the physical world.
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@shmibs @Aether @Moon @fluffy @vriska No it's not lol that's not how spirits work lol
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@shmibs @Aether @Moon @fluffy @vriska >if a soul is a thing that can be with a body and physically interact with it then it is another physical piece of the body.No it's not lol, a soul is non-physical by definition end of story.> if you believe in souls then to remove a soul from the rest of the body would be to break that body,Removing the soul kills the body, removing the software from a computer does not destroy the hardware. Your brain is not a computer, your soul is not a program on a computer.>human designed computers can't be turned back on either if you break themBroken things are broken big whoop
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@shmibs @Aether @Moon @fluffy @vriska The soul leaves the body when you die, the soul stays with the body when you sleep, the computer has no soul at all.
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@shmibs @Aether @Moon @fluffy @vriska You can't come back from the dead but you can restart a halted program duh
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@shmibs @Aether @Moon @fluffy @vriska To prove the brain is not a computer, try turning yours off and then back on again. Oh no you died but a computer didn't, guess you're different after all.
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@shmibs @Aether @Moon @fluffy @vriska>a person is a certain pattern of computation. The brain is not a computer so this is wrong and so is everything else you said. It's not healthy to deal with the grief of losing your grandad by dehumanizing him and using that to justify murder. I'd tell you to get help but you were probably already "helped" by a therapist who gave you these bad ideas.
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