Notices by Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)

at some point maybe it would be worth doing a fediverse thread breakdown of the ideas in ocappub https://gitlab.com/spritely/ocappub/blob/master/README.org and how the work has continued over at @spritelyinst because everything I wrote in 2019 is now super, incredibly relevant

(I am anticipating a crash/collapse of the fediverse in its current form at a not too distant future; hopefully we'll have more answers ready by then, but this is a multi-year project)

in the meanwhile the most important thing to do is to keep doing the work, because explaining things isn't as powerful as demonstrating them https://dustycloud.org/blog/if-you-cant-tell-people-anything/

in particular, the "Nation-State'ification of the Fediverse" section has turned out to be SUPER ON POINT

but also the discussion of how neo-fascists co-opt decentralization language while having no real interest in dispersing authority, the intro to ocaps, etc

but again, I stopped writing because I found it was hard to explain things to people... and demo'ing is better. In the meanwhile, the doc does do a good job of explaining the problem space that the @spritelyinst is solving.

HOWEVER, this is not to say we are "fixing ActivityPub" in two ways:

- the ideas can eventually be ported back to ActivityPub, the spec. however if the heavily-mastodon-flavored version of ActivityPub (MastoPub?) prevails I'm not sure it can be upended
- our main focus is on technical pieces built on OCapN, but activitypub backfill has been long planned. it's in the future though. it's not the critical path.

the blocklist/allowlist path for the fediverse is a band-aid. it's a doomed approach to moderation, and it always converges on centralization as it continues to run. I think the doc explains why that is pretty clearly.

Hey I've been hearing a lot about ActivityPub could someone please tell me how it works?!?!?!?! THANKS!

Raise your hand if you've been on the fediverse since the identi.ca days 👋

so it turned out "the fediverse is cool and all but it doesn't have enough people or content on it" was not going to be the problem

So if you DON'T KNOW @evan let me give you some context.

The fediverse really went through three eras, as I see it. The OStatus era, the great fragmentation era, and the ActivityPub era.

If you used "GNU Social", that was StatusNet originally, and it ran OStatus, both of which Evan was largely responsible for. Evan also built the precursor to ActivityPub, the Pump API, and ran the Social Web Working Group, where ActivityPub was standardized!

He's been absent for a while. I'm so happy to see him back!

FINALLY we've got @evan back on the fediverse!

WELCOME BACK EVAN!!!!

I hope the American people will see angrily talking over the other person and not letting them speak as a sign that you lost the debate but I'm not sure that's where we are collectively as a country right now

Maybe we'll have a better idea tomorrow

"The ActivityPub ecosystem" by Evan Prodromou

Q&A Session: Friday October 2nd, 17:00 UTC #apconf2020

https://conf.tube/videos/watch/c79457a9-aae5-47dd-8731-617e6b09fe06

have you ever transcended space and time and become one with the universe

what was it like how did you get back in your body

I was wondering why "ssl" was renamed to "tls" and it looks like the answer is "b/c Microsoft pressured for the change for no reason other than not wanting Netscape's naming, despite Netscape doing the initial work" (sounds familiar... hello "ecmascript"?) http://tim.dierks.org/2014/05/security-standards-and-name-changes-in.html